[Simh] VMS hobbyist license
Supratim Sanyal
supratim at riseup.net
Wed Mar 18 10:35:45 EDT 2020
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On 3/17/20 6:31 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> Sure. I'll be happy to ignore you. But just for anyone else, here is
> the exchange I had with Dan on the topic.
>
> So noone else have to repeat the same thing.
>
> Johnny
>
> On 2020-03-17 23:27, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
>> please stop bothering me with your nonsense.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se>
>> *Sent:* March 17, 2020 6:26 PM
>> *To:* Dan Gahlinger <dgahling at hotmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license
>> Your question was:
>>
>> "What would HPE do if the pak they released were posted anonymously with
>> the termination date removed?"
>>
>> That seemed to imply that you were thinking that it was possible to
>> "modify" the PAK.
>>
>> My response was:
>> "You need to generate a different PAK. You cannot change any field in an
>> existing PAK and still have a valid PAK. The checksum will (obviously)
>> change."
>>
>> In which way was that overly arrogant, talking down to you like you were
>> stupid or something. In which way was that "massive attitude"?
>>
>> Or, to put it another way:
>>
>> I simply responded wanting to confirm if you understood that it was not
>> possible to "modify" the PAK, but that you in fact have to create a new
>> PAK, which have nothing to do with the HPE PAK.
>>
>> So the question is really, what would HPE do if someone starts sending
>> out their own PAKs for HPW products.
>>
>> It has nothing to do with their (ie. HPE) PAKs.
>>
>> But you certainly is showing a lot of attitude to my response.
>>
>> But that is your problem. Not mine. Just as any response from HPE would
>> be your problem, not mine.
>>
>> Some countries might not care what HPE thinks or does. Sure. Does that
>> change what HPE thinks or does? No idea. Seems unlikely that it would
>> stop HPE to try and protect their property where they can. But that
>> would be pure speculation on my part.
>>
>> If you want to move to Russia, go ahead. Also not my problem.
>>
>> Johnny
>>
>> On 2020-03-17 18:00, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
>>> your message seemed overly arrogant intentionally, talking down to
>>> me like I was stupid or something. massive attitude.
>>>
>>> my question was very clear and concise, and you have yet to provide
>>> a valid response, not that your opinion has any weight any longer.
>>>
>>> what is HPE going to do, sue some guy in Russia or Iran? pffft fat
>>> chance
>>>
>>> next time just politely answer
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> Try: https://www.grammarly.com
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2020 12:07:58 PM
>>> *To:* Dan Gahlinger <dgahling at hotmail.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license
>>> I did feel it was a bit deceptive to phrase the question as if it would
>>> be a modification of a HPE PAK.
>>>
>>> You obviously felt then that this was a fine way to pose the question.
>>>
>>> Johnny
>>>
>>> On 2020-03-17 15:28, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
>>>> well DUH.
>>>> thanks Captain Obvious...
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se>
>>>> *Sent:* March 17, 2020 10:26 AM
>>>> *To:* Dan Gahlinger <dgahling at hotmail.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license
>>>> Sure. But then the question should properly be "What would HPE do of
>>>> people post arbitrary PAKs"? Because it is not any PAK HPE have
>>>> released.
>>>>
>>>> Johnny
>>>>
>>>> On 2020-03-17 15:08, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
>>>>> Obviously, but aside from the termination and checksum,
>>>>> Everything else can be the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se>
>>>>> *Sent:* March 17, 2020 10:02 AM
>>>>> *To:* Dan Gahlinger <dgahling at hotmail.com>; simh at trailing-edge.com
>>>>> <simh at trailing-edge.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license
>>>>> You need to generate a different PAK. You cannot change any field
>>>>> in an
>>>>> existing PAK and still have a valid PAK. The checksum will
>>>>> (obviously)
>>>>> change.
>>>>>
>>>>> Johnny
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2020-03-17 14:40, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ask because countries like Russia just don't care, or like Iran...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *I can neither confirm nor deny that such a posting exists...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Simh <simh-bounces at trailing-edge.com> on behalf of John
>>>>>> H. Reinhardt <johnhreinhardt at thereinhardts.org>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2020 9:32:34 AM
>>>>>> *To:* simh at trailing-edge.com <simh at trailing-edge.com>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license
>>>>>> On 3/13/2020 11:29 AM, Arthur Krewat wrote:
>>>>>>> The domain decusserve.org doesn't exist?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Typo on my part in the original. It should be one "s"...
>>>>>> <https://eisner.decuserve.org> <https://eisner.decuserve.org> for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> web page. ssh to eisner.decuserve.org for the login.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> John H. Reinhardt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/11/2020 9:23 PM, Tony Nicholson wrote:
>>>>>>>> The URL for OpenVMS hobbyist renewal is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.hpe.com/h41268/live/index_e.aspx?qid=24548
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You need to make sure you put valid information in the form and
>>>>>>>> make sure you put something reasonable in the "How do you use
>>>>>>>> the Hobbyist Program?" question.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you don't have a Chapter number, go to (via ssh)
>>>>>>>> eisner.decusserve.org <http://eisner.decusserve.org> and log in
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the username of REGISTRATION and follow the prompts. That gets
>>>>>>>> you registered in the US DECUServe chapter (all nationalities
>>>>>>>> are welcome) and gets you a valid member number for
>>>>>>>> registration. You may have to wait a week or two for the
>>>>>>>> number to become active at HPE.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tony
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 11:48, dave porter
>>>>>>>> <dave_list_addr at verizon.net
>>>>>>>> <mailto:dave_list_addr at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I let my VMS hobbyist license expire a few years back.
>>>>>>>> Can I get one
>>>>>>>> now for the next year? Would someone remind me of how?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
>>>>> || on a psychedelic trip
>>>>> email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
>>>>> pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
>>>> || on a psychedelic trip
>>>> email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
>>>> pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
>>>
>>> --
>>> Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
>>> || on a psychedelic trip
>>> email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
>>> pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
>>
>> --
>> Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
>> || on a psychedelic trip
>> email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
>> pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
>
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