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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/17/20 6:31 PM, Johnny Billquist
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:f0c43c1d-3ee0-f000-50b2-aff8467959eb@softjar.se">Sure.
I'll be happy to ignore you. But just for anyone else, here is the
exchange I had with Dan on the topic.
<br>
<br>
So noone else have to repeat the same thing.
<br>
<br>
Johnny
<br>
<br>
On 2020-03-17 23:27, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">please stop bothering me with your
nonsense.
<br>
<br>
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<br>
*From:* Johnny Billquist <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se"><bqt@softjar.se></a>
<br>
*Sent:* March 17, 2020 6:26 PM
<br>
*To:* Dan Gahlinger <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dgahling@hotmail.com"><dgahling@hotmail.com></a>
<br>
*Subject:* Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license
<br>
Your question was:
<br>
<br>
"What would HPE do if the pak they released were posted
anonymously with
<br>
the termination date removed?"
<br>
<br>
That seemed to imply that you were thinking that it was possible
to
<br>
"modify" the PAK.
<br>
<br>
My response was:
<br>
"You need to generate a different PAK. You cannot change any
field in an
<br>
existing PAK and still have a valid PAK. The checksum will
(obviously)
<br>
change."
<br>
<br>
In which way was that overly arrogant, talking down to you like
you were
<br>
stupid or something. In which way was that "massive attitude"?
<br>
<br>
Or, to put it another way:
<br>
<br>
I simply responded wanting to confirm if you understood that it
was not
<br>
possible to "modify" the PAK, but that you in fact have to
create a new
<br>
PAK, which have nothing to do with the HPE PAK.
<br>
<br>
So the question is really, what would HPE do if someone starts
sending
<br>
out their own PAKs for HPW products.
<br>
<br>
It has nothing to do with their (ie. HPE) PAKs.
<br>
<br>
But you certainly is showing a lot of attitude to my response.
<br>
<br>
But that is your problem. Not mine. Just as any response from
HPE would
<br>
be your problem, not mine.
<br>
<br>
Some countries might not care what HPE thinks or does. Sure.
Does that
<br>
change what HPE thinks or does? No idea. Seems unlikely that it
would
<br>
stop HPE to try and protect their property where they can. But
that
<br>
would be pure speculation on my part.
<br>
<br>
If you want to move to Russia, go ahead. Also not my problem.
<br>
<br>
Johnny
<br>
<br>
On 2020-03-17 18:00, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">your message seemed overly arrogant
intentionally, talking down to me like I was stupid or
something. massive attitude.
<br>
<br>
my question was very clear and concise, and you have yet to
provide a valid response, not that your opinion has any weight
any longer.
<br>
<br>
what is HPE going to do, sue some guy in Russia or Iran? pffft
fat chance
<br>
<br>
next time just politely answer
<br>
<br>
Dan
<br>
<br>
Try: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.grammarly.com">https://www.grammarly.com</a>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
*From:* Johnny Billquist <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se"><bqt@softjar.se></a>
<br>
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2020 12:07:58 PM
<br>
*To:* Dan Gahlinger <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dgahling@hotmail.com"><dgahling@hotmail.com></a>
<br>
*Subject:* Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license
<br>
I did feel it was a bit deceptive to phrase the question as if
it would
<br>
be a modification of a HPE PAK.
<br>
<br>
You obviously felt then that this was a fine way to pose the
question.
<br>
<br>
Johnny
<br>
<br>
On 2020-03-17 15:28, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">well DUH.
<br>
thanks Captain Obvious...
<br>
<br>
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<br>
*From:* Johnny Billquist <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se"><bqt@softjar.se></a>
<br>
*Sent:* March 17, 2020 10:26 AM
<br>
*To:* Dan Gahlinger <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dgahling@hotmail.com"><dgahling@hotmail.com></a>
<br>
*Subject:* Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license
<br>
Sure. But then the question should properly be "What would
HPE do of
<br>
people post arbitrary PAKs"? Because it is not any PAK HPE
have released.
<br>
<br>
Johnny
<br>
<br>
On 2020-03-17 15:08, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Obviously, but aside from the
termination and checksum,
<br>
Everything else can be the same.
<br>
<br>
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<br>
*From:* Johnny Billquist <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se"><bqt@softjar.se></a>
<br>
*Sent:* March 17, 2020 10:02 AM
<br>
*To:* Dan Gahlinger <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dgahling@hotmail.com"><dgahling@hotmail.com></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com">simh@trailing-edge.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com"><simh@trailing-edge.com></a>
<br>
*Subject:* Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license
<br>
You need to generate a different PAK. You cannot change
any field in an
<br>
existing PAK and still have a valid PAK. The checksum will
(obviously)
<br>
change.
<br>
<br>
Johnny
<br>
<br>
On 2020-03-17 14:40, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<br>
<br>
I ask because countries like Russia just don't care, or
like Iran...
<br>
<br>
*I can neither confirm nor deny that such a posting
exists...
<br>
<br>
Dan
<br>
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<br>
*From:* Simh <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com"><simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com></a> on
behalf of John H. Reinhardt
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:johnhreinhardt@thereinhardts.org"><johnhreinhardt@thereinhardts.org></a>
<br>
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2020 9:32:34 AM
<br>
*To:* <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com">simh@trailing-edge.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com"><simh@trailing-edge.com></a>
<br>
*Subject:* Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license
<br>
On 3/13/2020 11:29 AM, Arthur Krewat wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">The domain decusserve.org
doesn't exist?
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Typo on my part in the original. It should be one
"s"... <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://eisner.decuserve.org"><https://eisner.decuserve.org></a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://eisner.decuserve.org"><https://eisner.decuserve.org></a> for the
<br>
web page. ssh to eisner.decuserve.org for the login.
<br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
John H. Reinhardt
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<br>
On 3/11/2020 9:23 PM, Tony Nicholson wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">The URL for OpenVMS hobbyist
renewal is
<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.hpe.com/h41268/live/index_e.aspx?qid=24548">https://www.hpe.com/h41268/live/index_e.aspx?qid=24548</a>
<br>
<br>
You need to make sure you put valid information in
the form and make sure you put something reasonable
in the "How do you use the Hobbyist Program?"
question.
<br>
<br>
If you don't have a Chapter number, go to (via ssh)
eisner.decusserve.org
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://eisner.decusserve.org"><http://eisner.decusserve.org></a> and log in with
<br>
the username of REGISTRATION and follow the prompts.
That gets you registered in the US DECUServe chapter
(all nationalities are welcome) and gets you a valid
member number for registration. You may have to
wait a week or two for the number to become active
at HPE.
<br>
<br>
Tony
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 11:48, dave porter
<<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dave_list_addr@verizon.net">dave_list_addr@verizon.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dave_list_addr@verizon.net"><mailto:dave_list_addr@verizon.net></a>> wrote:
<br>
<br>
I let my VMS hobbyist license expire a few
years back. Can I get one
<br>
now for the next year? Would someone remind me
of how?
<br>
<br>
Thanks.
<br>
_______________________________________________
<br>
<br>
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</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
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Simh mailing list
<br>
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<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh">http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh</a>
<br>
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<br>
-- <br>
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
<br>
|| on a psychedelic
trip
<br>
email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se">bqt@softjar.se</a> || Reading murder books
<br>
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip"
- B. Idol
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
-- <br>
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
<br>
|| on a psychedelic
trip
<br>
email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se">bqt@softjar.se</a> || Reading murder books
<br>
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" -
B. Idol
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
-- <br>
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
<br>
|| on a psychedelic trip
<br>
email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se">bqt@softjar.se</a> || Reading murder books
<br>
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B.
Idol
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
-- <br>
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
<br>
|| on a psychedelic trip
<br>
email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se">bqt@softjar.se</a> || Reading murder books
<br>
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B.
Idol
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</blockquote>
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