[Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

Stafford Winters stafford.winters at gmail.com
Thu May 9 18:49:46 EDT 2019


I successfully configured DECnet over IP using MultiNet.  I'd guess you 
have MultiNet on another system, with whom you'd like to speak DECnet, 
so it shouldn't be hard.

On 5/9/2019 12:51 PM, Jonathan Welch wrote:
> It has been a considerable time since I have done any networking work
> -- would you get me going in the right direction for setting up NAT on
> Windows?
>
> On 5/9/19, Mark Pizzolato <Mark at infocomm.com> wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 9:54 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote:
>>> I just moved to a wired connection and now am having success.  Good point
>>> about walking before running.
>>>
>>> I'm on npcap 0.994 current as of last night.
>>>
>>> I turned off DECNET to eliminate one source of possible trouble.  It would
>>> be
>>> nice to have it on at some point in the future.
>> As I suggested, without DECnet, you should probably get success with a NAT
>> connection using either a wired or a wireless host network.  DECnet over
>> wireless probably isn't going to be achievable since many WiFi environments
>> are particularly IP centric and don't pass arbitrary other packets, and even
>> if
>> they did, you would have to convince the host NIC to use a DECnet MAC
>> address for everything.  There probably isn't a way to set the host
>> network device's MAC address so that won't get you there.
>>
>> - Mark
>>
>>> sim> sho ver
>>> MicroVAX 3900 simulator V4.0-0 Current
>>>      Simulator Framework Capabilities:
>>>          64b data
>>>          64b addresses
>>>          Threaded Ethernet Packet transports:PCAP:NAT:UDP
>>>          Idle/Throttling support is available
>>>          Virtual Hard Disk (VHD) support
>>>          RAW disk and CD/DVD ROM support
>>>          Asynchronous I/O support (Lock free asynchronous event queue)
>>>          Asynchronous Clock support
>>>          FrontPanel API Version 12
>>>      Host Platform:
>>>          Compiler: Microsoft Visual C++ 15.00.30729.01
>>>          Simulator Compiled as C arch: x86 (Release Build) on May  1 2019
>>> at 23:0
>>> 0:06
>>>          Memory Access: Little Endian
>>>          Memory Pointer Size: 32 bits
>>>          Large File (>2GB) support
>>>          SDL Video support: SDL Version 2.0.8
>>>          PCRE RegEx (Version 8.36 2014-09-26) support for EXPECT commands
>>>          OS clock resolution: 1ms
>>>          Time taken by msleep(1): 1ms
>>>          OS: Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
>>>          Architecture: x86 on AMD64, Processors: 8
>>>          Processor Id: Intel64 Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7, GenuineIntel,
>>> Level:
>>>   6, Revision: 2a07
>>>          git commit id: ab3e07a4
>>>          git commit time: 2019-05-01T22:56:54-07:00
>>> sim>
>>>
>>> On 5/9/19, Mark Pizzolato <Mark at infocomm.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 7:00 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote:
>>>>> The vms systems on our campus are about to be shut down.  My former
>>>>> boss and I would like to still have access to our files, so I've
>>>>> moved an image of a vax system disk into simh.
>>>>>
>>>>> He is a networking expert and I am no slouch, but neither of us can
>>>>> figure out why we cannot establish any kind of network connection
>>>>> outside of the simh.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've looked back in the archives for help but have only found people
>>>>> with linux systems or messages of success with UCX.
>>>>>
>>>>> This morning I upgraded from Multinet 4.3 to 5.2 and tried to set up
>>>>> DHCP but that did not work either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Npcap is installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I set my mac address to be the same as that of the host laptop I
>>>>> can use wireshark to see pings coming out from the vax but there are
>>>>> no responses.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've disabled decnet from starting up to avoid the mac address from
>>>>> being changed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some guidance in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
>>>> First: Learn to walk before you run.  Meaning, get things working with
>>>> a wired network connection BEFORE you try to use a wireless solution.
>>>>
>>>> Second: It seems that you might be using a somewhat recent version of
>>>> simh since you've got a SHOW ETHERNET command, but it would be useful
>>>> to see the output of a SHOW VERSION command.  The latest Windows
>>>> binaries are available at:
>>>> https://github.com/simh/Win32-Development-Binaries
>>>>
>>>> Third: Since you've disabled DECnet, that might mean that all you care
>>>> about is IP so, you may be able to achieve that both wired and
>>>> wirelessly if you use a NAT: attachment for your XQ device.
>>>>
>>>> - Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  From my vax.ini file:
>>>>> set xq mac=08-24-d7-ca-1f-40
>>>>> att xq eth3
>>>>>
>>>>>  From the simh prompt:
>>>>> sim> sho eth
>>>>> ETH devices:
>>>>>   eth0   \Device\NPF_{8E7FBCD3-67EB-4A59-8E35-6713CAB729FA} (Local
>>> Area
>>>>> Connection 2)
>>>>>   eth1   \Device\NPF_{EE67D248-AACC-4A29-99EE-2B84EA08B5EF} (VMware
>>>>> Network Adapter VMnet8)
>>>>>   eth2   \Device\NPF_{7287895B-5B94-43ED-8AA8-1FF910EA836B} (Wireless
>>>>> Network Connection 2)
>>>>>   eth3   \Device\NPF_{DC3CD7F8-4BD9-4610-B8DF-20AC5FBD56FC}
>>> (Wireless
>>>>> Network Connection)
>>>>>   eth4   \Device\NPF_NdisWanIp                              (NdisWan
>>>>> Adapter)
>>>>>   eth5   \Device\NPF_NdisWanBh                              (NdisWan
>>>>> Adapter)
>>>>>   eth6   \Device\NPF_{B1392056-6E69-421B-9814-6011441195C2} (Wireless
>>>>> Network Connection 3)
>>>>>   eth7   \Device\NPF_NdisWanIpv6                            (NdisWan
>>>>> Adapter)
>>>>>   eth8   \Device\NPF_{C7140267-68CB-485A-B343-5751B1865242} (VMware
>>>>> Network Adapter VMnet1)
>>>>>   eth9   \Device\NPF_{795E27CA-60AA-4A1E-AAB0-99FB62537868} (Npcap
>>>>> Loopback Adapter)
>>>>>   eth10  \Device\NPF_{62CD8A59-7E13-401A-90AB-3CFBC37554E8} (Local
>>>>> Area
>>>>> Connection)
>>>>>   eth11  nat:{optional-nat-parameters}                      (Integrated
>>>>> NAT (SLiRP) support)
>>>>>   eth12  udp:sourceport:remotehost:remoteport               (Integrated
>>>>> UDP bridge support)
>>>>> Npcap version 0.994, based on libpcap version 1.9.1-PRE-GIT Open ETH
>>>>> Devices:
>>>>>   XQ     eth3 (Wireless Network Connection)
>>>>> Ethernet Device:
>>>>>    Name:
>>>>> \Device\NPF_{DC3CD7F8-4BD9-4610-B8DF-20AC5FBD56FC}
>>>>>    Reflections:             1
>>>>>    Self Loopbacks Sent:     2
>>>>>    Self Loopbacks Rcvd:     2
>>>>>    Host NIC Address:        00:24:D7:CA:1F:40
>>>>>    Packets Sent:            2
>>>>>    Packets Received:        26
>>>>>    Asynch Interrupts:       Disabled
>>>>>    Read Queue: Count:       24
>>>>>    Read Queue: High:        24
>>>>>    Read Queue: Loss:        0
>>>>>    Peak Write Queue Size:   0
>>>>>    BPF Filter: (((ether dst 08:24:D7:CA:1F:40) or (ether multicast))
>>>>> and not ((et her src 08:24:D7:CA:1F:40))) or ((ether dst
>>>>> 08:24:D7:CA:1F:40) and (ether src
>>>>> 08
>>>>> :24:D7:CA:1F:40)) or ((ether dst 00:24:D7:CA:1F:40) and (ether proto
>>>>> 0x9000))
>>>>> sim>
>>>>>
>>>>> Multinet settings
>>>>> MultiNet Network Configuration Utility V5.2(107) [Reading in MAXIMUM
>>>>> configuration from MULTINET:MULTINET.EXE] [Reading in configuration
>>>>> from MULTINET:NETWORK_DEVICES.CONFIGURATION]
>>>>> NET-CONFIG>sho
>>>>> Interface                                Adapter     CSR Address
>>>>> Flags/Vector
>>>>> ---------                                -------     -----------
>>>>> ------------
>>>>> se0      (Shared VMS Ethernet/FDDI)       -NONE-        -NONE-
>>>>> -NONE-
>>>>>            [TCP/IP: 10.0.0.150, IP-SubNet: 255.255.255.0, IP-Broadcast:
>>>>> 10.0.0.255]
>>>>>            [VMS Device: XQA0, Link Level: Ethernet ]
>>>>>            DHCP Client for the interface is enabled
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Official Host Name:             vax1
>>>>> Default IP Route:               10.0.0.1
>>>>> Domain Nameserver:              127.0.0.1
>>>>> Timezone:                       EST
>>>>> Timezone Rules:                 US/EASTERN
>>>>> Load UCX $QIO driver:           TRUE
>>>>> Load PWIP (Pathworks) driver:   TRUE
>>>>> DHCP Client Flag:               1
>>>>> NET-CONFIG>
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