[Simh] Klh10 vs Simh

[Michael Kerpan]

It's not that multiuser is impossible using KLH10 networking emulation and
native TOPS-20 TCP/IP, it's that it's a lot harder to set up than a SIMH
virtual multiplexer. Wifi (under Linux at least) doesn't play all that well
with bridging and virtual networking stuff, which makes setting up
networking in KLH10 nigh impossible for those of us stuck on wireless. I
can't even really set up a VM and run KLH10 in a guest, because
Virtualbox's bridged mode doesn't work for me. Additionally, the idea of
putting anything running a 30 year old TCP/IP stack onto the Internet
scares me, even if the folks at twenex.org have done so.

Mike
On Feb 26, 2016 8:46 AM, "Johnny Billquist" <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:

On 2016-02-25 20:07, Timothe Litt wrote:

> my employer's views, if any, on the matters discussed.
> On 25-Feb-16 13:48, Michael Kerpan wrote:
>
>> I've been hoping for a KL simulation in SIMH for a while. KLH10 lacks
>> support for things like serial over Telnet which means that multiuser
>> is essentially impossible on KLH10 without all kinds of networking
>> mojo. Sadly, I don't have the skill to actually write such a beast,
>> I'm of no use except as a data point regarding interest in such a
>> development.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> If the recently promised release of Linux code for DECnet/LAT
> materializes, you'll be able to
> connect to KLH10-based machines with as many connections as you can keep
> track of.
>
> Both TOPS-10 and TOP-20 on the KL supported LAT, and of course DECnet
> NRT and CTERM.
>

...and telnet. So, (as also Rich pointed out), what is the problem
actually? Are people so limited in their mind that they only think that
they can use telnet if the simulator have a telnet to serial port
connection, and do not think that the OS itself actually can do
networking... (with many different protocols)

        Johnny


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