[Simh] RT-11 Storage Strategy

Paul Koning paulkoning at comcast.net
Sun Feb 21 10:51:57 EST 2016


> On Feb 21, 2016, at 7:32 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
> 
> On 2016-02-17 21:02, Paul Koning wrote:
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 1:55 PM, Larry Baker <baker at usgs.gov> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you really want the RT-11 experience, try running it off RX01 floppies.  My first experience with DEC PDP-11's was a PDP-11/34 (not 34A; no FPU) running RT-11 off floppies.  Ka-klunk, ka-klunk!
>> 
>> Yes, but that's still quite a lot faster than running it on DECtape.
>> 
>> Still, the amazing part is that RT on DECtape actually works.  It's the only DEC OS I know of for which that is true.
> 
> Like others said, lots of PDP-8 systems definitely ran only from DECtape. So that is not unique by any means.
> 
> But more generally - DECtape is just a block addressable mass storage system, just like any other. In theory, any OS that can run from a disk can just as well run from DECtape. Speed will be slow, but that's the only thing about it.

True in principle.  But a number of OS used a different file structure for DECtape than for disks -- because of the performance issues.  DOS does, for example, and RSTS copied the DOS DECtape directory structure (but not the disk one).  RT11, on the other hand, uses the same format for both, and the RT11 format works well.  That's why RT runs from DECtape without any extra work, while DOS and RSTS don't.

	paul




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