[Simh] text from openvms

[Mark Wickens]

It looks like Kermit (well, for windows certainly) has stagnated, which is
a shame. C-Kermit might be a different proposition.

On 20 April 2016 at 16:50, Sampsa Laine <sampsal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ethan,
>
> I use Kermit for basically all connections to servers, even modern ones
> that use SSH (you can do a SET HOST /PTY <ssh script name> to connect) so
> that I can do inline file transfers quickly instead of having to open
> another window for doing an scp/sftp..
>
> Works brilliantly.
>
> Sampsa
>
> > On 20 Apr 2016, at 18:45, Ken Cornetet <
> Ken.Cornetet at kimballelectronics.com> wrote:
> >
> > I tried something like that using RTE Kermit under RTE-6/VM on the
> hp2100. I could never make it work reliably, and even when it did work, the
> performance was horrible.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Simh [mailto:simh-bounces at trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Dr
> Eberhard W Lisse
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 11:09 AM
> > To: ethan.dicks at gmail.com; billcun at suddenlink.net
> > Cc: simh at trailing-edge.com
> > Subject: Re: [Simh] text from openvms
> >
> > Posted this a while back to the kermit newsgroup:
> >
> > [...]
> > So I downloaded CKV211-VAX-VMS73-NONET.EXE and put that in the ISO,
> fired up kermit on the netbook (I keep it an EVERY machine I ever
> > use!)  and ssh'ed to the localhost, fire up the simulator, log on, fire
> up CKV211-VAX-VMS73-NONET.EXE into servermode and Frank is your uncle :-)-O
> >
> > At least for text files (for the time being) :-)-O [...]
> >
> > Kermit always works!
> >
> > el
> >
> >
> > On 2016-04-20 15:43, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> >> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Bill Cunningham <
> billcun at suddenlink.net> wrote:
> >>> People tell me kermit in vms can be a pain.
> >>
> >> We used Kermit on VMS everyday back in the 80s.  It was terrific.
> >> You do have to know how to use Kermit (the default option settings
> >> aren't always the best choice) and you have to understand that files
> >> on VMS are record-oriented not streams-of--bytes, so moving *binary*
> >> files to/from VMS is not so trivial (EXEs aren't bad because they are
> >> fixed-length 512-byte record and you can tell Kermit what you are up
> >> to so you write the correct format on the VMS side, .OLB and other
> >> types of random-length-record files aren't so easy - we used to wrap
> >> binaries up in a text format that preserved the record-size meta-data
> >> and send text files.  Kermit is superb at that).  It's not Kermit that
> >> makes this "difficult", it's RMS on VMS that makes it more complicated
> >> than files on UNIX or DOS or whatever else.  All heterogenous file
> >> transfer techniques have the same hurdles.
> >>
> >> So since your use-case is moving text in and out of VMS, Kermit is an
> >> excellent choice that is not difficult to set up.
> >>
> >> -ethan
> >
> >
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