[Simh] Simh Digest, Vol 66, Issue 9

[Bill Pechter]

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:00 PM,  <simh-request at trailing-edge.com> wrote:
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>   1. Re:  Errors when using pUTTY terminal emulator to telnet to
>      simh. (Tim Shoppa)
>   2. Re:  Errors when using pUTTY terminal emulator to telnet to
>      simh. (Jason Stevens)
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> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:26:06 -0400
> From: shoppa at trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa)
> Subject: Re: [Simh] Errors when using pUTTY terminal emulator to
>        telnet to simh.
> To: simh at trailing-edge.com, royhills at hotmail.com, raleonar at gmail.com
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> Rey writes:
>> I'd tried again another terminal emulator. Eterm32 Plus, but still same
>> message displayed as in Putty.BUT...when I used again another emulator,
>> TeraTerm, ITS WORKING FINE. everything then is OKAY.
>
> All those terminal emulators are semi-usable but really pretty rotten
> compared to a real VT100 or VT220.
>
> The only thing on a Microsoft platform that comes remotely close to
> correct non-frustrating VT emulation is
> MS-DOS Kermit. It even maps the Gold key (aka PF1) correctly. This
> is incredibly important for those of us who actually like EDT. I know
> I just painted myself into a really tiny corner by admitting that I like EDT.
> But that also means that I'm also really really picky and exacting about
> terminal emulation. The Gold key is supposed to be where God intended
> it to be, damn it, not what some loser later called the Num Lock key!
>
> xterm with a DEC keyboard (they are available for PC-clones, at least PS/2,
> don't know about USB) can be pretty good under Linux, but IMHO still not
> as good as MS-DOS Kermit. It takes some tweaking of the .xtermrc from
> standard default Linux installations to make it actually work well; most
> Linux distros ship with a really stupid and lousy .xtermrc which has
> all sorts of features that real VT terminals definitely do not have.
>
> MS-DOS Kermit also has a spot-on perfect VT52 emulation.
>
> MS-DOS Kermit works very nicely with a built-in TCP/IP stack and also
> network support for LAT (DEC's terminal server over Ethernet protocol).
> These are incredibly incredibly handy.
>
> There is also a Windows version that is passable but when I'm in
> a "remove all frustration mode" I don't run Windows :-). I haven't
> used Kermit for Windows since the Windows 95 days so maybe it has
> progressed since then. I guess if Kermit for Windows was OK back then
> then it may be even better now.
>
> Tim.


Chalk up another EDT fan.  (Well, KED will do in a pinch on RT11).

Kermit95 on Windows is great.  It's too bad they're having trouble
getting enough funding for another version.
The price I paid for Kermit95 wasn't too bad, but I'm using Putty more
and more at work.

It's become the Procomm of terminal emulation because of it's free SSH2 support.
Teraterm only did ssh1.

I'll have to look about mapping the Gold Key on Kermit.  Never tried that.

Bill
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