[Simh] iPhones....

[Jason Stevens]

Hmm thats interesting... Ill have to try that some time. (the pcap thing)

I was running the 11/780 emulator as my disk image for 4.2 BSD is only
174MB and something that old won't run on a microvax..  There is also
the firmware issue, since the -O2 flags on gcc don't work, its slower
then it ought to be, and I didn't want to wait while the microvax did
the POST... I like the 780 since I can just "load -o" the boot blocks
and start running quicker..  I suppose if I were cooler, I could
manually load the kernel into the emulator and just jump to it, but
one thing is for sure, manually loading the bootblocks into the
microvax doesn't work.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Hittner, David T (IS)
<david.hittner at ngc.com> wrote:
> Thanks. In general, libpcap works fine for wireless ethernet, you just have to set a MAC address that your wireless router can cope with, and some wireless routers are better than others about registering and forwarding MAC addresses. I've gotten pcap to work with D-LINK routers, and I've fielded reports of problems with Microsoft routers. Using the host's MAC for the simulation MAC can frequently work, depending on how packet delivery in the host OS is done, although this is not an optimal solution.
>
> Any particular reason that you ran the VAX780 rather then the VAX simulation? The latter has had far more testing and development..
>
> Dave
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jason Stevens [mailto:neozeed at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:52 AM
>> To: Hittner, David T (IS)
>> Cc: simh at trailing-edge.com
>> Subject: Re: [Simh] iPhones....
>>
>> Just remember the iPhone is on wifi.. so I don't think
>> libpcap would work at any rate...
>>
>> First you'll need to make sure your iPhone is running some
>> 2.0 version of the OS... iTunes should be able to take care
>> of that for you.
>>
>> Next you'll need something to jailbreak the iPhone which will
>> allow you to flesh out the enviroment to make it more like a
>> *nix box than a cellphone.  I used QuickPWN-225-2 .. I think
>> you'll have to google around for the flash boot files and
>> some other misc stuff.  With that done, be sure to have it
>> install Cydia.  It'll probably want to update itself a bunch
>> of times, but from there you can install the terminal
>> application, sshd, gcc and a whole host of usefull things to
>> make the iPhone multiuser...
>>
>> The userland on the iPhone feels like any debian linux OS, so
>> apt-get install is your friend for getting software..
>>
>> Then it's a simple matter of scp'ing the files (simh source, and disk
>> images) onto the phone, unzipping the source, building, and
>> away you go..
>>
>> Just remember to sign each exe as you build them otherwise
>> you'll never run anything...
>>
>> iPhone:/usr/src root# ./vax780
>> Killed
>> iPhone:/usr/src root# ldid -S ./vax780
>> iPhone:/usr/src root# ./vax780
>>
>> VAX780 simulator V3.8-1
>> sim> quit
>> Goodbye
>>
>> **REMEMBER that jailbreaking the phone will most likely
>> return it to a virgin state.  I didn't have anything of value
>> on it, so I didn't care.  If you have contacts I'd highly
>> advise setting up some kind of replication in iTunes to some
>> kind of mail client so that way you don't lose your address
>> book.  Likewise, copy off your picture roll!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Hittner, David T (IS)
>> <david.hittner at ngc.com> wrote:
>> > Can you detail how you got the source there and built it?
>> >
>> > I have an iPhone and would like to play with it and maybe
>> get the pcap
>> > stuff working .
>> >
>> > Dave Hittner
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: simh-bounces at trailing-edge.com
>> >> [mailto:simh-bounces at trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Jason Stevens
>> >> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 8:52 AM
>> >> To: simh at trailing-edge.com
>> >> Subject: [Simh] iPhones....
>> >>
>> >> I figured I'd mention that SIMH can run on the iPhone,
>> with the 2.0
>> >> version of the OS.. I've built exe's using the native port of GCC..
>> >> It's not terribly fast, but it's cool to have a hand held 11/780!
>> >> The only drawback I've seen is speed... and that the
>> >> O2 option for gcc breaks SIMH..  But being all unofficial
>> software,
>> >> its an interesting start.
>> >>
>> >> While libpcap is unavailable, my updates for either SLiRP
>> or HECNet
>> >> support ought to allow the iPhone to 'reach out' into the world...
>> >> I'm using the SLiRP stuff now..
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