[Simh] EXT :Re: Mouse capture on VAXstation II/GPX (KA630) simulator V4.0-0 Current

[Matt Burke]

The combinations on lines 3 and 5 are invalid. VAXstation = QVSS only
(monochrome) and VAXstation/GPX = QDSS only (colour). The net result is
that line 3 is the same as line 1 and line 5 is the same as line 4.

Additionally the combination on line 4 is not currently supported so you
must use captured input mode with the QDSS.

Having said that captured input mode doesn't seem to be working for you
even with the QVSS. I haven't been able to reproduce this so far
(testing on my usual platform of Debian 9.9). Which version of SDL are
you using (show version)? For me it's 2.0.5.

For line 1 in your table you may be able to make the cursor less jumpy
by adjusting the pointer acceleration in DECwindows. From the Session
Manager select Customize -> Pointer. I have found that for un-captured
input mode the pointer speed/acceleration within the guest system needs
to be closely matched to the host otherwise the two fight against each
other. For my system the 'slow' setting seems to work best.

Matt

On 21/03/2020 10:33, Supratim Sanyal wrote:
>
> Matt,
>
> I ran through six possible combinations of capture and cpu model. Here
> are the results, also attaching in PDF format because non-html mail
> readers will lose the table. This is using microvax2git id
> 89cd649c/2020-03-18T00:47:48-07:00 on FreeBSD-12/intel x64 with
> VAX/VMS 5.5-2H4 as the guest. In summary, the best combination that
> works for me is QDSS/VAXstation (monochrome but still sweet).
>
> I will try Paul Hardy's approach with a MicroVAX 3100M38 sometime in
> the near future after playing with a couple of unrelated toys waiting
> for me (VAX/VMS 3.0 and 4.6) first.
>
> SIMH Config file: CAPTURE
>
> 	
>
> SIMH Config file:
> CPU MODEL
>
> 	
>
> MOUSE AVAILABLE?
>
> 	
>
> Notes
>
> None
>
> 	
>
> VAXstation
>
> 	
>
> Yes
>
> 	
>
> ·      Monochrome
>
> ·      No ReleaseKey in title-bar
>
> QVSS
>
> 	
>
> VAXstation
>
> 	
>
> No
>
> 	
>
> ·      Monochrome
>
> ·      ReleaseKey present in title-bar
>
> ·      Mouse pointer disappears when first moved
>
> QDSS
>
> 	
>
> VAXstation
>
> 	
>
> Yes
>
> 	
>
> ·      Monochrome
>
> ·      ReleaseKey present in title-bar
>
> None
>
> 	
>
> VAXstationGPX
>
> 	
>
> No
>
> 	
>
> ·      Color
>
> ·      No ReleaseKey in title-bar
>
> QVSS
>
> 	
>
> VAXstationGPX
>
> 	
>
> No
>
> 	
>
> ·      Color
>
> ·      No ReleaseKey in title-bar
>
> QDSS
>
> 	
>
> VAXstationGPX
>
> 	
>
> No
>
> 	
>
> ·      Monochrome
>
> ·      ReleaseKey present in title-bar
>
> ·      Mouse pointer disappears when first moved
>
> Regards,
> Supratim
>
> On 3/20/20 5:11 AM, Matt Burke wrote:
>> It looks like mouse capture is still not enabled as I'm sure the
>> release key should be shown in the window title bar. You can toggle
>> the messages region with CTRL+F2. I'll give the latest code a try to
>> see if I can reproduce the issues.
>>
>> The QDSS does have some known issues which cause screen corruption
>> over time. I hope to fix these one day but debugging the QDSS can be
>> quite difficult.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On 19/03/2020 17:38, Supratim Sanyal wrote:
>>>
>>> Very interesting. With "qvss capture" below "cpu model", mouse now
>>> works (jumpy, but better than no mouse). Also, I am getting console
>>> replies at the top of the graphical desktop, and have lost color.
>>> Here's a screenshot.
>>>
>>> On 3/19/20 1:25 PM, Supratim Sanyal wrote:
>>>> On 3/19/20 11:09 AM, Hittner, David T [US] (MS) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> et cpu model=vaxstationgpx
>>>>>
>>>>> set qvss enable                        ; if required – I think
>>>>> ‘set cpu model = vaxstationgpx’ does this implicitly
>>>>>
>>>>> set qvss capture
>>>>>
>>>> Tried this sequence:
>>>>
>>>> set cpu model=vaxstationgpx
>>>> set qvss enable
>>>> set qvss capture
>>>>
>>>> Trying to set capture after the CPU model produces this:
>>>>
>>>> "Capture Mode Can't be changed with device enabled"
>>>>
>>>> BTW, an explicit "set qvss enable" produces this twice, so I think
>>>> your thoughts on implicit enable is correct ...
>>>>
>>>> "QDSS Display Created.  Uncaptured Input Mode
>>>> QVSS Display Created.  Uncaptured Input Mode"
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Supratim Sanyal, W1XMT
>>>> 39.19151 N, 77.23432 W
>>>> QCOCAL::SANYAL via HECnet
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