[Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

Johnny Billquist bqt at softjar.se
Thu May 9 15:17:02 EDT 2019


On 2019-05-09 20:14, Hittner, David T [US] (MS) wrote:
>> There probably isn't a way to set the host network device's MAC address so that won't get you there.
> 
> If you are privileged enough, SMAC can set the MAC address on Windows. Google "smac change mac address".

Not that it helps much, unless you manage to push it down in the WiFi 
network card properly.

> Changing the MAC address to the DECNET address does make it a bit trickier to start up DECNET though.

Uh? Why? Changing the MAC address to the DECnet address is essentially 
required for DECnet to work. Meaning not changing it will make starting 
DECnet hard...

   Johnny

> 
> https://www.thewindowsclub.com/free-mac-address-changer-tools-windows
> https://smac.soft32.com/
> 
> David
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simh [mailto:simh-bounces at trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Mark Pizzolato
> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 1:31 PM
> To: Jonathan Welch <jhwelch at gmail.com>
> Cc: simh at trailing-edge.com
> Subject: EXT :Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring
> 
> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 9:54 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote:
>> I just moved to a wired connection and now am having success.  Good
>> point about walking before running.
>>
>> I'm on npcap 0.994 current as of last night.
>>
>> I turned off DECNET to eliminate one source of possible trouble.  It
>> would be nice to have it on at some point in the future.
> 
> As I suggested, without DECnet, you should probably get success with a NAT connection using either a wired or a wireless host network.  DECnet over wireless probably isn't going to be achievable since many WiFi environments are particularly IP centric and don't pass arbitrary other packets, and even if they did, you would have to convince the host NIC to use a DECnet MAC address for everything.  There probably isn't a way to set the host network device's MAC address so that won't get you there.
> 
> - Mark
> 
>> sim> sho ver
>> MicroVAX 3900 simulator V4.0-0 Current
>>      Simulator Framework Capabilities:
>>          64b data
>>          64b addresses
>>          Threaded Ethernet Packet transports:PCAP:NAT:UDP
>>          Idle/Throttling support is available
>>          Virtual Hard Disk (VHD) support
>>          RAW disk and CD/DVD ROM support
>>          Asynchronous I/O support (Lock free asynchronous event queue)
>>          Asynchronous Clock support
>>          FrontPanel API Version 12
>>      Host Platform:
>>          Compiler: Microsoft Visual C++ 15.00.30729.01
>>          Simulator Compiled as C arch: x86 (Release Build) on May  1
>> 2019 at 23:0
>> 0:06
>>          Memory Access: Little Endian
>>          Memory Pointer Size: 32 bits
>>          Large File (>2GB) support
>>          SDL Video support: SDL Version 2.0.8
>>          PCRE RegEx (Version 8.36 2014-09-26) support for EXPECT commands
>>          OS clock resolution: 1ms
>>          Time taken by msleep(1): 1ms
>>          OS: Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
>>          Architecture: x86 on AMD64, Processors: 8
>>          Processor Id: Intel64 Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7, GenuineIntel, Level:
>>   6, Revision: 2a07
>>          git commit id: ab3e07a4
>>          git commit time: 2019-05-01T22:56:54-07:00
>> sim>
>>
>> On 5/9/19, Mark Pizzolato <Mark at infocomm.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 7:00 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote:
>>>> The vms systems on our campus are about to be shut down.  My former
>>>> boss and I would like to still have access to our files, so I've
>>>> moved an image of a vax system disk into simh.
>>>>
>>>> He is a networking expert and I am no slouch, but neither of us can
>>>> figure out why we cannot establish any kind of network connection
>>>> outside of the simh.
>>>>
>>>> I've looked back in the archives for help but have only found
>>>> people with linux systems or messages of success with UCX.
>>>>
>>>> This morning I upgraded from Multinet 4.3 to 5.2 and tried to set
>>>> up DHCP but that did not work either.
>>>>
>>>> Npcap is installed.
>>>>
>>>> If I set my mac address to be the same as that of the host laptop I
>>>> can use wireshark to see pings coming out from the vax but there
>>>> are no responses.
>>>>
>>>> I've disabled decnet from starting up to avoid the mac address from
>>>> being changed.
>>>>
>>>> Some guidance in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> First: Learn to walk before you run.  Meaning, get things working
>>> with a wired network connection BEFORE you try to use a wireless solution.
>>>
>>> Second: It seems that you might be using a somewhat recent version
>>> of simh since you've got a SHOW ETHERNET command, but it would be
>>> useful to see the output of a SHOW VERSION command.  The latest
>>> Windows binaries are available at:
>>> https://github.com/simh/Win32-Development-Binaries
>>>
>>> Third: Since you've disabled DECnet, that might mean that all you
>>> care about is IP so, you may be able to achieve that both wired and
>>> wirelessly if you use a NAT: attachment for your XQ device.
>>>
>>> - Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>>  From my vax.ini file:
>>>> set xq mac=08-24-d7-ca-1f-40
>>>> att xq eth3
>>>>
>>>>  From the simh prompt:
>>>> sim> sho eth
>>>> ETH devices:
>>>>   eth0   \Device\NPF_{8E7FBCD3-67EB-4A59-8E35-6713CAB729FA} (Local
>> Area
>>>> Connection 2)
>>>>   eth1   \Device\NPF_{EE67D248-AACC-4A29-99EE-2B84EA08B5EF} (VMware
>>>> Network Adapter VMnet8)
>>>>   eth2   \Device\NPF_{7287895B-5B94-43ED-8AA8-1FF910EA836B} (Wireless
>>>> Network Connection 2)
>>>>   eth3   \Device\NPF_{DC3CD7F8-4BD9-4610-B8DF-20AC5FBD56FC}
>> (Wireless
>>>> Network Connection)
>>>>   eth4   \Device\NPF_NdisWanIp                              (NdisWan
>>>> Adapter)
>>>>   eth5   \Device\NPF_NdisWanBh                              (NdisWan
>>>> Adapter)
>>>>   eth6   \Device\NPF_{B1392056-6E69-421B-9814-6011441195C2} (Wireless
>>>> Network Connection 3)
>>>>   eth7   \Device\NPF_NdisWanIpv6                            (NdisWan
>>>> Adapter)
>>>>   eth8   \Device\NPF_{C7140267-68CB-485A-B343-5751B1865242} (VMware
>>>> Network Adapter VMnet1)
>>>>   eth9   \Device\NPF_{795E27CA-60AA-4A1E-AAB0-99FB62537868} (Npcap
>>>> Loopback Adapter)
>>>>   eth10  \Device\NPF_{62CD8A59-7E13-401A-90AB-3CFBC37554E8} (Local
>>>> Area
>>>> Connection)
>>>>   eth11  nat:{optional-nat-parameters}                      (Integrated
>>>> NAT (SLiRP) support)
>>>>   eth12  udp:sourceport:remotehost:remoteport               (Integrated
>>>> UDP bridge support)
>>>> Npcap version 0.994, based on libpcap version 1.9.1-PRE-GIT Open
>>>> ETH
>>>> Devices:
>>>>   XQ     eth3 (Wireless Network Connection)
>>>> Ethernet Device:
>>>>    Name:
>>>> \Device\NPF_{DC3CD7F8-4BD9-4610-B8DF-20AC5FBD56FC}
>>>>    Reflections:             1
>>>>    Self Loopbacks Sent:     2
>>>>    Self Loopbacks Rcvd:     2
>>>>    Host NIC Address:        00:24:D7:CA:1F:40
>>>>    Packets Sent:            2
>>>>    Packets Received:        26
>>>>    Asynch Interrupts:       Disabled
>>>>    Read Queue: Count:       24
>>>>    Read Queue: High:        24
>>>>    Read Queue: Loss:        0
>>>>    Peak Write Queue Size:   0
>>>>    BPF Filter: (((ether dst 08:24:D7:CA:1F:40) or (ether multicast))
>>>> and not ((et her src 08:24:D7:CA:1F:40))) or ((ether dst
>>>> 08:24:D7:CA:1F:40) and (ether src
>>>> 08
>>>> :24:D7:CA:1F:40)) or ((ether dst 00:24:D7:CA:1F:40) and (ether
>>>> proto
>>>> 0x9000))
>>>> sim>
>>>>
>>>> Multinet settings
>>>> MultiNet Network Configuration Utility V5.2(107) [Reading in
>>>> MAXIMUM configuration from MULTINET:MULTINET.EXE] [Reading in
>>>> configuration from MULTINET:NETWORK_DEVICES.CONFIGURATION]
>>>> NET-CONFIG>sho
>>>> Interface                                Adapter     CSR Address
>>>> Flags/Vector
>>>> ---------                                -------     -----------
>>>> ------------
>>>> se0      (Shared VMS Ethernet/FDDI)       -NONE-        -NONE-
>>>> -NONE-
>>>>            [TCP/IP: 10.0.0.150, IP-SubNet: 255.255.255.0, IP-Broadcast:
>>>> 10.0.0.255]
>>>>            [VMS Device: XQA0, Link Level: Ethernet ]
>>>>            DHCP Client for the interface is enabled
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Official Host Name:             vax1
>>>> Default IP Route:               10.0.0.1
>>>> Domain Nameserver:              127.0.0.1
>>>> Timezone:                       EST
>>>> Timezone Rules:                 US/EASTERN
>>>> Load UCX $QIO driver:           TRUE
>>>> Load PWIP (Pathworks) driver:   TRUE
>>>> DHCP Client Flag:               1
>>>> NET-CONFIG>
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