[Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

Johnny Billquist bqt at softjar.se
Thu May 9 15:14:21 EDT 2019


On 2019-05-09 19:30, Mark Pizzolato wrote:
> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 9:54 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote:
>> I just moved to a wired connection and now am having success.  Good point
>> about walking before running.
>>
>> I'm on npcap 0.994 current as of last night.
>>
>> I turned off DECNET to eliminate one source of possible trouble.  It would be
>> nice to have it on at some point in the future.
> 
> As I suggested, without DECnet, you should probably get success with a NAT
> connection using either a wired or a wireless host network.  DECnet over
> wireless probably isn't going to be achievable since many WiFi environments
> are particularly IP centric and don't pass arbitrary other packets, and even if
> they did, you would have to convince the host NIC to use a DECnet MAC
> address for everything.  There probably isn't a way to set the host
> network device's MAC address so that won't get you there.

DECnet won't work for the same reason his attempt at IP didn't work, and 
is the reason for your NAT: solution in simh. But NAT: obviously only 
works for IP.

   Johnny

> 
> - Mark
> 
>> sim> sho ver
>> MicroVAX 3900 simulator V4.0-0 Current
>>      Simulator Framework Capabilities:
>>          64b data
>>          64b addresses
>>          Threaded Ethernet Packet transports:PCAP:NAT:UDP
>>          Idle/Throttling support is available
>>          Virtual Hard Disk (VHD) support
>>          RAW disk and CD/DVD ROM support
>>          Asynchronous I/O support (Lock free asynchronous event queue)
>>          Asynchronous Clock support
>>          FrontPanel API Version 12
>>      Host Platform:
>>          Compiler: Microsoft Visual C++ 15.00.30729.01
>>          Simulator Compiled as C arch: x86 (Release Build) on May  1 2019 at 23:0
>> 0:06
>>          Memory Access: Little Endian
>>          Memory Pointer Size: 32 bits
>>          Large File (>2GB) support
>>          SDL Video support: SDL Version 2.0.8
>>          PCRE RegEx (Version 8.36 2014-09-26) support for EXPECT commands
>>          OS clock resolution: 1ms
>>          Time taken by msleep(1): 1ms
>>          OS: Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
>>          Architecture: x86 on AMD64, Processors: 8
>>          Processor Id: Intel64 Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7, GenuineIntel, Level:
>>   6, Revision: 2a07
>>          git commit id: ab3e07a4
>>          git commit time: 2019-05-01T22:56:54-07:00
>> sim>
>>
>> On 5/9/19, Mark Pizzolato <Mark at infocomm.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 7:00 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote:
>>>> The vms systems on our campus are about to be shut down.  My former
>>>> boss and I would like to still have access to our files, so I've
>>>> moved an image of a vax system disk into simh.
>>>>
>>>> He is a networking expert and I am no slouch, but neither of us can
>>>> figure out why we cannot establish any kind of network connection
>>>> outside of the simh.
>>>>
>>>> I've looked back in the archives for help but have only found people
>>>> with linux systems or messages of success with UCX.
>>>>
>>>> This morning I upgraded from Multinet 4.3 to 5.2 and tried to set up
>>>> DHCP but that did not work either.
>>>>
>>>> Npcap is installed.
>>>>
>>>> If I set my mac address to be the same as that of the host laptop I
>>>> can use wireshark to see pings coming out from the vax but there are
>>>> no responses.
>>>>
>>>> I've disabled decnet from starting up to avoid the mac address from
>>>> being changed.
>>>>
>>>> Some guidance in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> First: Learn to walk before you run.  Meaning, get things working with
>>> a wired network connection BEFORE you try to use a wireless solution.
>>>
>>> Second: It seems that you might be using a somewhat recent version of
>>> simh since you've got a SHOW ETHERNET command, but it would be useful
>>> to see the output of a SHOW VERSION command.  The latest Windows
>>> binaries are available at:
>>> https://github.com/simh/Win32-Development-Binaries
>>>
>>> Third: Since you've disabled DECnet, that might mean that all you care
>>> about is IP so, you may be able to achieve that both wired and
>>> wirelessly if you use a NAT: attachment for your XQ device.
>>>
>>> - Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>>  From my vax.ini file:
>>>> set xq mac=08-24-d7-ca-1f-40
>>>> att xq eth3
>>>>
>>>>  From the simh prompt:
>>>> sim> sho eth
>>>> ETH devices:
>>>>   eth0   \Device\NPF_{8E7FBCD3-67EB-4A59-8E35-6713CAB729FA} (Local
>> Area
>>>> Connection 2)
>>>>   eth1   \Device\NPF_{EE67D248-AACC-4A29-99EE-2B84EA08B5EF} (VMware
>>>> Network Adapter VMnet8)
>>>>   eth2   \Device\NPF_{7287895B-5B94-43ED-8AA8-1FF910EA836B} (Wireless
>>>> Network Connection 2)
>>>>   eth3   \Device\NPF_{DC3CD7F8-4BD9-4610-B8DF-20AC5FBD56FC}
>> (Wireless
>>>> Network Connection)
>>>>   eth4   \Device\NPF_NdisWanIp                              (NdisWan
>>>> Adapter)
>>>>   eth5   \Device\NPF_NdisWanBh                              (NdisWan
>>>> Adapter)
>>>>   eth6   \Device\NPF_{B1392056-6E69-421B-9814-6011441195C2} (Wireless
>>>> Network Connection 3)
>>>>   eth7   \Device\NPF_NdisWanIpv6                            (NdisWan
>>>> Adapter)
>>>>   eth8   \Device\NPF_{C7140267-68CB-485A-B343-5751B1865242} (VMware
>>>> Network Adapter VMnet1)
>>>>   eth9   \Device\NPF_{795E27CA-60AA-4A1E-AAB0-99FB62537868} (Npcap
>>>> Loopback Adapter)
>>>>   eth10  \Device\NPF_{62CD8A59-7E13-401A-90AB-3CFBC37554E8} (Local
>>>> Area
>>>> Connection)
>>>>   eth11  nat:{optional-nat-parameters}                      (Integrated
>>>> NAT (SLiRP) support)
>>>>   eth12  udp:sourceport:remotehost:remoteport               (Integrated
>>>> UDP bridge support)
>>>> Npcap version 0.994, based on libpcap version 1.9.1-PRE-GIT Open ETH
>>>> Devices:
>>>>   XQ     eth3 (Wireless Network Connection)
>>>> Ethernet Device:
>>>>    Name:
>>>> \Device\NPF_{DC3CD7F8-4BD9-4610-B8DF-20AC5FBD56FC}
>>>>    Reflections:             1
>>>>    Self Loopbacks Sent:     2
>>>>    Self Loopbacks Rcvd:     2
>>>>    Host NIC Address:        00:24:D7:CA:1F:40
>>>>    Packets Sent:            2
>>>>    Packets Received:        26
>>>>    Asynch Interrupts:       Disabled
>>>>    Read Queue: Count:       24
>>>>    Read Queue: High:        24
>>>>    Read Queue: Loss:        0
>>>>    Peak Write Queue Size:   0
>>>>    BPF Filter: (((ether dst 08:24:D7:CA:1F:40) or (ether multicast))
>>>> and not ((et her src 08:24:D7:CA:1F:40))) or ((ether dst
>>>> 08:24:D7:CA:1F:40) and (ether src
>>>> 08
>>>> :24:D7:CA:1F:40)) or ((ether dst 00:24:D7:CA:1F:40) and (ether proto
>>>> 0x9000))
>>>> sim>
>>>>
>>>> Multinet settings
>>>> MultiNet Network Configuration Utility V5.2(107) [Reading in MAXIMUM
>>>> configuration from MULTINET:MULTINET.EXE] [Reading in configuration
>>>> from MULTINET:NETWORK_DEVICES.CONFIGURATION]
>>>> NET-CONFIG>sho
>>>> Interface                                Adapter     CSR Address
>>>> Flags/Vector
>>>> ---------                                -------     -----------
>>>> ------------
>>>> se0      (Shared VMS Ethernet/FDDI)       -NONE-        -NONE-
>>>> -NONE-
>>>>            [TCP/IP: 10.0.0.150, IP-SubNet: 255.255.255.0, IP-Broadcast:
>>>> 10.0.0.255]
>>>>            [VMS Device: XQA0, Link Level: Ethernet ]
>>>>            DHCP Client for the interface is enabled
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Official Host Name:             vax1
>>>> Default IP Route:               10.0.0.1
>>>> Domain Nameserver:              127.0.0.1
>>>> Timezone:                       EST
>>>> Timezone Rules:                 US/EASTERN
>>>> Load UCX $QIO driver:           TRUE
>>>> Load PWIP (Pathworks) driver:   TRUE
>>>> DHCP Client Flag:               1
>>>> NET-CONFIG>
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