[Simh] DMA access to the IO page

Bob Supnik bob at supnik.org
Wed Sep 5 22:13:47 EDT 2018


Apparently, the GT40 does this. So... problems.

1. The original simulator I wrote didn't support DMA to IO space. Code 
for this was added in V4, but the code conformed to the internal 
simulator convention that all addresses are 22b wide. This is certainly 
not the case for Unibus DMA devices; those addresses are 18b wide. So 
the V4 code to test for the IO page needs to be bus-type sensitive.

I'm assuming the GT40 either generates 18b addresses via Address 
Extension bits or does the 16b -> 18b conversion itself, including the 
IO page test. The "Unibus" does NOT do the IO page recognition/sign 
extension to 18b. In all Unibus systems, that's done in the CPU.

On Qbus systems, IO page references are distinguished by the assertion 
of BBS7, and only address bits <12:0> matter. Either the CPU or a DMA 
device can assert BBS7, but I don't think the standard Qbus chips ever 
assert BBS7, so I don't think standard Qbus DMA devices can access the 
IO page. I could be wrong on this.

2. More critically, while all IO space addresses are accessible from the 
CPU, not all are accessible from DMA. In particular, internal CPU 
registers are not, at least on the systems I'm familiar with. (And I 
think Unibus map registers aren't either.) CPUs, in general, didn't need 
to monitor DMA activity, except for systems with internal caches, like 
the 11/70. I know for a fact that the F11 and J11 simply ignored DMA 
activity. The cache, if any, was external to the CPU, and it was the 
responsibility of the cache controller to deal with DMA activity.

At the moment, the PDP11 simulator makes no distinction between IO page 
addresses that are CPU-internal vs bus-external. Without this, DMA 
devices can do truly evil things, like overwrite the PSW or memory 
management registers, that they couldn't do on a real system. So a data 
structure needs to be added to distinguish internal from external IO 
space addresses, code needs to be added to distinguish internal DIB 
entries from external, and call flags added to the IO page read/write 
routines to distinguish CPU access from DMA access.

/Bob




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