[Simh] text from openvms

[Ken Cornetet]

I tried something like that using RTE Kermit under RTE-6/VM on the hp2100. I could never make it work reliably, and even when it did work, the performance was horrible.

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From: Simh [mailto:simh-bounces at trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Dr Eberhard W Lisse
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 11:09 AM
To: ethan.dicks at gmail.com; billcun at suddenlink.net
Cc: simh at trailing-edge.com
Subject: Re: [Simh] text from openvms

Posted this a while back to the kermit newsgroup:

[...]
So I downloaded CKV211-VAX-VMS73-NONET.EXE and put that in the ISO, fired up kermit on the netbook (I keep it an EVERY machine I ever
use!)  and ssh'ed to the localhost, fire up the simulator, log on, fire up CKV211-VAX-VMS73-NONET.EXE into servermode and Frank is your uncle :-)-O

At least for text files (for the time being) :-)-O [...]

Kermit always works!

el


On 2016-04-20 15:43, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Bill Cunningham <billcun at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>> People tell me kermit in vms can be a pain.
> 
> We used Kermit on VMS everyday back in the 80s.  It was terrific.
> You do have to know how to use Kermit (the default option settings 
> aren't always the best choice) and you have to understand that files 
> on VMS are record-oriented not streams-of--bytes, so moving *binary* 
> files to/from VMS is not so trivial (EXEs aren't bad because they are 
> fixed-length 512-byte record and you can tell Kermit what you are up 
> to so you write the correct format on the VMS side, .OLB and other 
> types of random-length-record files aren't so easy - we used to wrap 
> binaries up in a text format that preserved the record-size meta-data 
> and send text files.  Kermit is superb at that).  It's not Kermit that 
> makes this "difficult", it's RMS on VMS that makes it more complicated 
> than files on UNIX or DOS or whatever else.  All heterogenous file 
> transfer techniques have the same hurdles.
> 
> So since your use-case is moving text in and out of VMS, Kermit is an 
> excellent choice that is not difficult to set up.
> 
> -ethan


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