[Simh] Simh Digest, Vol 69, Issue 4
valdir.marques.franc
valdir.marques.franc at itelefonica.com.br
Mon Aug 24 17:36:50 EDT 2009
Hi...
I got simh working fine under windows.
I decided move to linux, specially with a text base installation, like
slackware.
Under windows, ovms/vax gets internet, lan and so...
But with linux, not much success.
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> 1. simh and tap device under linux (valdir)
> 2. Re: simh and tap device under linux (Jason Stevens)
> 3. Re: simh and tap device under linux (ttmrichter at gmail.com)
> 4. Re: simh and tap device under linux (ttmrichter at gmail.com)
> 5. Re: simh and tap device under linux (Gregg Levine)
> 6. Re: simh and tap device under linux (Vorl?nder)
> 7. Re: simh and tap device under linux (ttmrichter at gmail.com)
> 8. Re: simh and tap device under linux (ttmrichter at gmail.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:47:09 -0300
> From: valdir <valdir.marques.franc at itelefonica.com.br>
> Subject: [Simh] simh and tap device under linux
> To: simh at trailing-edge.com
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> Hi,
> I?m running simh under linux Slackware, (vax with openvms).
> Can?t connect simh to outside using eth0 and tap0. Vax doesnt ping
> Slackware and vice-versa.
> Any suggestion.
>
> TIA
> marx
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:34:30 -0400
> From: Jason Stevens <neozeed at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Simh] simh and tap device under linux
> To: valdir <valdir.marques.franc at itelefonica.com.br>,
> simh at trailing-edge.com
> Message-ID:
> <46b366130908231734m9385691xd4eb7356ebfcba15 at mail.gmail.com>
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> start with tcpdump, see that it's ARP'ing correctly.
>
> Check the machine you ar trying to ping the VMS host, and verify
that it has
> an ARP entry for the VMS host.
>
> Also on SIMH make sure your 'ethernet is bound...
>
> sim> show xq eth
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 7:47 PM, valdir <
> valdir.marques.franc at itelefonica.com.br> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I?m running simh under linux Slackware, (vax with openvms).
> > Can?t connect simh to outside using eth0 and tap0. Vax doesnt ping
> > Slackware and vice-versa.
> > Any suggestion.
> >
> > TIA
> > marx
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 06:01:59 +0000
> From: ttmrichter at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Simh] simh and tap device under linux
> To: Jason Stevens <neozeed at gmail.com>, simh at trailing-edge.com
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> On Aug 24, 2009 8:34am, Jason Stevens <neozeed at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Also on SIMH make sure your 'ethernet is bound...
>
> > sim> show xq eth
>
> This is interesting and ties into problems I've been sporadically
looking
> at in my spare time. (I'm trying to get a fully functioning RSTS/E 9.x
> environment running.) I was unable to get the telnet linking to the
virtual
> terminals and shelved figuring that out until later. Seeing this,
however,
> piqued my curiosity and got me to try it.
>
> With a freshly-built PDP-11 emulater (3.8-1):
>
> gcc -std=c99 -U__STRICT_ANSI__ -g -lrt -lm -D_GNU_SOURCE -I .
> PDP11/pdp11_fp.c PDP11/pdp11_cpu.c PDP11/pdp11_dz.c PDP11/pdp11_cis.c
> PDP11/pdp11_lp.c PDP11/pdp11_rk.c PDP11/pdp11_rl.c PDP11/pdp11_rp.c
> PDP11/pdp11_rx.c PDP11/pdp11_stddev.c PDP11/pdp11_sys.c
PDP11/pdp11_tc.c
> PDP11/pdp11_tm.c PDP11/pdp11_ts.c PDP11/pdp11_io.c PDP11/pdp11_rq.c
> PDP11/pdp11_tq.c PDP11/pdp11_pclk.c PDP11/pdp11_ry.c PDP11/pdp11_pt.c
> PDP11/pdp11_hk.c PDP11/pdp11_xq.c PDP11/pdp11_xu.c PDP11/pdp11_vh.c
> PDP11/pdp11_rh.c PDP11/pdp11_tu.c PDP11/pdp11_cpumod.c
PDP11/pdp11_cr.c
> PDP11/pdp11_rf.c PDP11/pdp11_dl.c PDP11/pdp11_ta.c PDP11/pdp11_rc.c
> PDP11/pdp11_kg.c PDP11/pdp11_ke.c PDP11/pdp11_dc.c
PDP11/pdp11_io_lib.c
> scp.c sim_console.c sim_fio.c sim_timer.c sim_sock.c sim_tmxr.c
sim_ether.c
> sim_tape.c -DVM_PDP11 -I PDP11 -DUSE_NETWORK -isystem
/usr/local/include
> /usr/local/lib/libpcap.a -o BIN/pdp11
>
> I'm seeing the following behaviour:
>
> $ BIN/pdp11
>
> PDP-11 simulator V3.8-1
> sim> show xq eth
> ETH devices:
> no network devices are available
> sim>
>
> This would certainly explain why I'm not getting my telnet connections
> linking to the simulated terminals. Poring over the docs, however, I
simply
> cannot figure out what, if anything, extra I'm supposed to be doing
to get
> this functioning.
>
> What am I missing in the docs and where do I find it?
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> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 06:03:31 +0000
> From: ttmrichter at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Simh] simh and tap device under linux
> To: Jason Stevens <neozeed at gmail.com>, simh at trailing-edge.com
> Message-ID: <00504502f528351e830471dcfa20 at google.com>
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> I forgot to mention: when I run the Windows binaries which have been
> compiled with ethernet support available from the web page, I get the
> expected behaviour. So again, what am I missing?
>
> On Aug 24, 2009 2:01pm, ttmrichter at gmail.com wrote:
> > On Aug 24, 2009 8:34am, Jason Stevens neozeed at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Also on SIMH make sure your 'ethernet is bound...
>
> > > sim> show xq eth
>
> > This is interesting and ties into problems I've been sporadically
looking
> > at in my spare time. (I'm trying to get a fully functioning RSTS/E
9.x
> > environment running.) I was unable to get the telnet linking to the
> > virtual terminals and shelved figuring that out until later.
Seeing this,
> > however, piqued my curiosity and got me to try it.
>
> > With a freshly-built PDP-11 emulater (3.8-1):
>
> > gcc -std=c99 -U__STRICT_ANSI__ -g -lrt -lm -D_GNU_SOURCE -I .
> > PDP11/pdp11_fp.c PDP11/pdp11_cpu.c PDP11/pdp11_dz.c
PDP11/pdp11_cis.c
> > PDP11/pdp11_lp.c PDP11/pdp11_rk.c PDP11/pdp11_rl.c PDP11/pdp11_rp.c
> > PDP11/pdp11_rx.c PDP11/pdp11_stddev.c PDP11/pdp11_sys.c
PDP11/pdp11_tc.c
> > PDP11/pdp11_tm.c PDP11/pdp11_ts.c PDP11/pdp11_io.c PDP11/pdp11_rq.c
> > PDP11/pdp11_tq.c PDP11/pdp11_pclk.c PDP11/pdp11_ry.c
PDP11/pdp11_pt.c
> > PDP11/pdp11_hk.c PDP11/pdp11_xq.c PDP11/pdp11_xu.c PDP11/pdp11_vh.c
> > PDP11/pdp11_rh.c PDP11/pdp11_tu.c PDP11/pdp11_cpumod.c
PDP11/pdp11_cr.c
> > PDP11/pdp11_rf.c PDP11/pdp11_dl.c PDP11/pdp11_ta.c PDP11/pdp11_rc.c
> > PDP11/pdp11_kg.c PDP11/pdp11_ke.c PDP11/pdp11_dc.c
PDP11/pdp11_io_lib.c
> > scp.c sim_console.c sim_fio.c sim_timer.c sim_sock.c sim_tmxr.c
> > sim_ether.c sim_tape.c -DVM_PDP11 -I PDP11 -DUSE_NETWORK -isystem
> > /usr/local/include /usr/local/lib/libpcap.a -o BIN/pdp11
>
> > I'm seeing the following behaviour:
>
> > $ BIN/pdp11
>
> > PDP-11 simulator V3.8-1
> > sim> show xq eth
> > ETH devices:
> > no network devices are available
> > sim>
>
> > This would certainly explain why I'm not getting my telnet
connections
> > linking to the simulated terminals. Poring over the docs, however, I
> > simply cannot figure out what, if anything, extra I'm supposed to be
> > doing to get this functioning.
>
> > What am I missing in the docs and where do I find it?
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> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 02:42:23 -0400
> From: Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Simh] simh and tap device under linux
> To: ttmrichter at gmail.com, Jason Stevens <neozeed at gmail.com>,
> simh at trailing-edge.com
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> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 2:03 AM, <ttmrichter at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I forgot to mention: when I run the Windows binaries which have been
> > compiled with ethernet support available from the web page, I get the
> > expected behaviour. So again, what am I missing?
> >
> > On Aug 24, 2009 2:01pm, ttmrichter at gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Aug 24, 2009 8:34am, Jason Stevens neozeed at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Also on SIMH make sure your 'ethernet is bound...
> >>
> >> > sim> show xq eth
> >>
> >> This is interesting and ties into problems I've been sporadically
looking
> >> at in my spare time. (I'm trying to get a fully functioning
RSTS/E 9.x
> >> environment running.) I was unable to get the telnet linking to
the virtual
> >> terminals and shelved figuring that out until later. Seeing this,
however,
> >> piqued my curiosity and got me to try it.
> >>
> >> With a freshly-built PDP-11 emulater (3.8-1):
> >>
> >> gcc -std=c99 -U__STRICT_ANSI__ -g -lrt -lm -D_GNU_SOURCE -I .
> >> PDP11/pdp11_fp.c PDP11/pdp11_cpu.c PDP11/pdp11_dz.c PDP11/pdp11_cis.c
> >> PDP11/pdp11_lp.c PDP11/pdp11_rk.c PDP11/pdp11_rl.c PDP11/pdp11_rp.c
> >> PDP11/pdp11_rx.c PDP11/pdp11_stddev.c PDP11/pdp11_sys.c
PDP11/pdp11_tc.c
> >> PDP11/pdp11_tm.c PDP11/pdp11_ts.c PDP11/pdp11_io.c PDP11/pdp11_rq.c
> >> PDP11/pdp11_tq.c PDP11/pdp11_pclk.c PDP11/pdp11_ry.c PDP11/pdp11_pt.c
> >> PDP11/pdp11_hk.c PDP11/pdp11_xq.c PDP11/pdp11_xu.c PDP11/pdp11_vh.c
> >> PDP11/pdp11_rh.c PDP11/pdp11_tu.c PDP11/pdp11_cpumod.c
PDP11/pdp11_cr.c
> >> PDP11/pdp11_rf.c PDP11/pdp11_dl.c PDP11/pdp11_ta.c PDP11/pdp11_rc.c
> >> PDP11/pdp11_kg.c PDP11/pdp11_ke.c PDP11/pdp11_dc.c
PDP11/pdp11_io_lib.c
> >> scp.c sim_console.c sim_fio.c sim_timer.c sim_sock.c sim_tmxr.c
sim_ether.c
> >> sim_tape.c -DVM_PDP11 -I PDP11 -DUSE_NETWORK -isystem
/usr/local/include
> >> /usr/local/lib/libpcap.a -o BIN/pdp11
> >>
> >> I'm seeing the following behaviour:
> >>
> >> $ BIN/pdp11
> >>
> >> PDP-11 simulator V3.8-1
> >> sim> show xq eth
> >> ETH devices:
> >> no network devices are available
> >> sim>
> >>
> >> This would certainly explain why I'm not getting my telnet
connections
> >> linking to the simulated terminals. Poring over the docs,
however, I simply
> >> cannot figure out what, if anything, extra I'm supposed to be
doing to get
> >> this functioning.
> >>
> >> What am I missing in the docs and where do I find it?
> > _______________________________________________
> > Simh mailing list
> > Simh at trailing-edge.com
> > http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
> >
>
> Hello!
> By chance did you remember to install the latest release of WinPCap?
> It is the capture library behind the TCPDump utility, and that's the
> name for it in Windows. The Ethernet available binaries are linked
> against it.
>
> And if you could mention where you find your copies of the "RSTS/E 9.x
> environment" I personally shall be eternally grateful.
> -----
> Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
> "This signature was once found posting rude
> messages in English in the Moscow subway."
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:51:36 +0200
> From: Vorl?nder, Martin <MV at pdv-systeme.de>
> Subject: Re: [Simh] simh and tap device under linux
> To: "simh at trailing-edge.com" <simh at trailing-edge.com>
> Message-ID:
> <289CC441B5E0FF478D980864660B70B80B3EE59C9C at gsex01.goslar.hit.pdv>
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>
> > > Also on SIMH make sure your 'ethernet is bound...
> >
> > > sim> show xq eth
> ...
> > With a freshly-built PDP-11 emulater (3.8-1):
> >
> > gcc -std=c99 -U__STRICT_ANSI__ -g -lrt -lm -D_GNU_SOURCE -I .
> ...
> > sim_ether.c sim_tape.c -DVM_PDP11 -I PDP11 -DUSE_NETWORK
> > -isystem /usr/local/include /usr/local/lib/libpcap.a -o BIN/pdp11
> >
> > I'm seeing the following behaviour:
> >
> > $ BIN/pdp11
> >
> > PDP-11 simulator V3.8-1
> > sim> show xq eth
> > ETH devices:
> > no network devices are available
> > sim>
> ...
> > What am I missing in the docs and where do I find it?
>
> libpcap works by switching the ethernet card into promiscuous mode
> and sorting out the packets destined for SIMH. Under Linux, it needs
> root access to be able to do that. So, what does it say when you
>
> $ sudo BIN/pdp11
>
> ?
>
> cu,
> Martin
> --
> O Lord, won't you buy me | Martin Vorlaender | OpenVMS rules!
> an HP OS | work: mv at pdv-systeme.de
> its name starts with "Open" |
http://vms.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/
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>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 06:52:52 +0000
> From: ttmrichter at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Simh] simh and tap device under linux
> To: Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com>, ttmrichter at gmail.com
> Cc: simh at trailing-edge.com
> Message-ID: <0016e64c2536b28c210471ddaae0 at google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I wasn't clear, I'm afraid. I get the ethernet devices under Windows
(after
> WinPcap is installed, of course). It's under Linux that I don't get
any
> network devices.
>
> As for RSTS,
http://www.rsts.org/autoindex.php?dir=distros/tapes/V95/ might
> contain what you like (version 9.5). 9.1, 9.3 and 9.4 are also
available if
> you go up to http://www.rsts.org/autoindex.php?dir=distros/tapes/
instead.
> Plus several older versions.
>
> On Aug 24, 2009 2:42pm, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello!
> > By chance did you remember to install the latest release of WinPCap?
> > It is the capture library behind the TCPDump utility, and that's the
> > name for it in Windows. The Ethernet available binaries are linked
> > against it.
>
> > And if you could mention where you find your copies of the "RSTS/E 9.x
> > environment" I personally shall be eternally grateful.
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> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:08:34 +0000
> From: ttmrichter at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Simh] simh and tap device under linux
> To: Vorl?nder, Martin <MV at pdv-systeme.de>, "ttmrichter at gmail.com"
> <ttmrichter at gmail.com>
> Cc: "simh at trailing-edge.com" <simh at trailing-edge.com>
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> On Aug 24, 2009 2:47pm, "Vorl?nder, Martin" <MV at pdv-systeme.de> wrote:
> > libpcap works by switching the ethernet card into promiscuous mode
> > and sorting out the packets destined for SIMH. Under Linux, it needs
> > root access to be able to do that. So, what does it say when you
>
> > $ sudo BIN/pdp11
>
> OK, colour me embarrassed. It works fine under root.
>
> Now the million-dollar question: is there any way to set this up so
that I
> don't have to give someone full-on God Mode privileges to run the
emulator
> properly? I'm not so sure I want to give this thing access to
everything on
> my system at this time.
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