[Simh] RSTS/E v96 installation

Fausto Saporito fausap at unina.it
Wed Mar 12 15:43:48 EDT 2008


Hi Bill,

unfortunately I don't have experience too about them.
I'm working with OpenVMS, but more or less the RSTS/E DCL is quite similar.

So, about F77 v5.3 I copied the BCK files under [1,2] and restored the  
files from INSTAL.BCK saveset. Then I ran the FRTRN77.COM procedure.

I had to specify some parameters on the command line, so I tried with:

@FRTRN77 FRTRN77

but the procedure fails with

VERSION 0.0 OF F77 IS NOT SUPPORTED.

There's this step in the procedure:

$ VER_FIL = F$SEARCH("''P1'VERNUM.*")
$ LIB_VER = F$PARSE(VER_FIL,,"TYPE")

where it looks for a file named VERNUM.* that should be included in  
INSTAL.BCK (restored few steps before in SY:), but there's no such  
file. So LIB_VER = NO_VER = 0 and there's a jump to

$ _IF F$INSTR(1,SUP_VER," ''LIB_VER'") .NE. 0 -  ! IF IT IS SUPPORTED,
         THEN _GOTO V_'LIB_VER'                   ! INSTALL IT
$ _WRITE 0 ""                                    ! ELSE PRINT ERROR
$ _WRITE 0 "?VERSION ",+F$LEFT(LIB_VER,2),".",+F$RIGHT(LIB_VER,3), -
                 " OF F77 IS NOT SUPPORTED"
$               ! EXITS SINCE THIS IS AN ERROR
$ _GOTO END

then, the installation stops.

Maybe I'm missing some important step, but really I have no idea about  
the correct installation method. :-)

thanks,
fausto

Quoting Bill Heaton <wheaton at cryptocybernetics.com>:

> Hi Fausto,
>
> Sorry, I don't have a lot of experience with the layered products.  As
> soon as I get the RSTS V9 Archive into reasonable shape, I'll be
> heading in that direction.  There are several of the layered products
> that I want to play with (again).  You may want to give the list more
> information of what's happening and perhaps one of us will remember
> something.
>
> If you get it working. Don't forget to generate a "How-to" so that
> others can benefit!
>
> Regards, Bill
>
> On Mar 12, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Fausto Saporito wrote:
>
>> Hello Bill, hello all,
>>
>> thanks for your replies.
>> If I understood well I need a separate installation tape for the
>> layered products, i.e. fortran77
>>
>> I found some of them in the trailing-edge ftp site, and I tried
>> several of them:
>>
>> 1) bb-k400f-bc_pdp_f77_rsts_v5_3_c1988.tap.bz2
>> 2) f77_v5_3.zip
>> 3) fortran-77_v5_4.zip
>>
>> the first two packages are in .bck format, and they don't have a CTL
>> file usable with RSTS/E BUILD command.
>> The last one has a .bck and .a saveset (remember me VMS saveset) and
>> no CTL file.
>>
>> All of them have a .COM installation procedure, but it fails. I
>> suppose that procedure (FRTRN77.COM) needs to be used within another
>> procedure/command.
>>
>> I found just one installation  document on bitsavers.org, but it
>> refers to a F77 installation under RSTS/E v7 and it uses only the
>> "BUILD" command.
>>
>> Do you have any suggestions about this kind of installation?
>>
>> thanks,
>> fausto
>>
>> Quoting Bill Heaton <wheaton at cryptocybernetics.com>:
>>
>>> Hi Fausto,
>>>
>>> I'm currently writing a How-To on sysgening RSTS/E V9.6 and can
>>> say that your on the right track.  I think that what's its saying is that
>>> those tasks haven't changed.
>>>
>>> Using the TU tape drive is slightly easier.  Here's my config that I'm
>>> using to successfully sysgen the system.  Once your up, use DB0:
>>> as your system device.  MM0: for the first tape, and MM1: for the
>>> second tape.
>>>
>>> BTW: for those that are wondering.  I have all the piece for my first
>>> release together.  Calling it the "RSTS V9 Archive".   Well over the
>>> 50% mark for getting it out to the world.  I'm still tuning the sysgen.
>>>
>>> Regards, Bill
>>>
>>> rsts-sysgen.ini
>>> ============
>>>
>>> ; Disable devices, we'll enable what we need later
>>> set CR disable
>>> set DZ disable
>>> set HK disable
>>> set RK disable
>>> set RL disable
>>> set RP disable
>>> set RQ disable
>>> set RQB disable
>>> set RQC disable
>>> set RQD disable
>>> set RX disable
>>> set RY disable
>>> ;set TA disable
>>> set TC disable
>>> set TM disable
>>> set TS disable
>>> set TQ disable
>>> set TU disable
>>> set VH disable
>>> set XQ disable
>>> set XQB disable
>>> set XU disable
>>> set XUB disable
>>>
>>> echo PDP-11/93 with 4 meg of memory
>>> echo
>>> set cpu 11/93
>>> set cpu 4m
>>> set cpu cis
>>>
>>> set RP enable
>>> set RP0 RP04
>>> attach RP0 RSTS_V9.RP04
>>> echo RSTS_V9.RP04 mounted on RP0: (DB0:)
>>>
>>> set TU enable
>>> set TU0 locked
>>> set TU1 locked
>>> attach TU0 rsts_v9_6_install.tap
>>> attach TU1 rsts_v9_library.tap
>>> echo rsts_v9_6_install.tap mounted on TU0 (MM0:)
>>> echo rsts_v9_library.tap mounted on TU1 (MM1:)
>>>
>>> echo
>>> echo "boot tu" to boot tape
>>> echo "boot rp" to boot disk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2008, at 11:06 AM, Fausto Saporito wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm installing the RSTS/E v9.6, unfortunately I don't have the right
>>>> installation document, and I'm using that one related to RSTS/E 9.7
>>>>
>>>> During the installation I have the following request:
>>>>
>>>> Please mount the RSTS/E Library media and enter the
>>>> name and unit number of the device.
>>>> Valid device types are: 'MM', 'MS', 'MT', 'MU', 'DM' or 'DL'
>>>>
>>>> Library device? <_MU0:>
>>>>
>>>> What's this library media? I found in the trailing-edge ftp directory,
>>>> a rsts_v9_library.zip
>>>> Is this the correct file? Or is it too old?
>>>>
>>>> If I use it, I have the following:
>>>>
>>>> Restoring the System Startup files from the Library kit
>>>> Restoring the System Library package from the Library kit
>>>> File [1,2]LOGIN .TSK not replaced
>>>> File [1,2]LOGOUT.TSK not replaced
>>>> File [1,2]DIRECT.TSK not replaced
>>>> File [1,2]SYSTAT.TSK not replaced
>>>> File [1,2]FILCOM.TSK not replaced
>>>> File [1,2]ATPK  .TSK not replaced
>>>> File [1,2]SAVRES.SAV not replaced
>>>> File [1,2]TERMGR.TSK not replaced
>>>> File [1,2]RDRXXX.TSK not replaced
>>>> File [1,2]RDRIDS.TSK not replaced
>>>>
>>>> etc...
>>>>
>>>> Is it normal?
>>>>
>>>> After it, the installation seems to be fine, but F77, for example, is
>>>> not installed, even if I choiced to install it.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> fausto
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