[Simh] Editors you love/hate.

Brett Bump bbump at rsts.org
Wed Oct 3 14:22:57 EDT 2007



On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Peter Lund wrote:

> On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 19:22 -0600, Brett Bump wrote:
>
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> > (But Bill Joy might never forgive you for your comment ;-)
>
> I'll never forget him for vi ;)
>
> (Escape :q! enter.  I mean, come on!)

Hmm...yank yank print, or was that yank yank "2" print if I wanted my LA36
to print me 2 lines (with TECO)?  I started with EDIT-11 so TECO was a joy
to work with.  My first screen editor was one I wrote in BASIC on RSTS-11.
Running Bell V7 for a few weeks before BSD arrived (and WOW vi) was all we
could hope for (NOT!).  At least the BSD had (vi) a screen editor, but it
was still faster to write with TECO (until RSTS had EDT).  Ah, I miss EDT.
I left the education scene for about 15 years, so I never had the chance
to see if VAX TPU was all the rage they said it was, but I was now using
CygnusEd on an Amiga (which even to this day is the best editor I've seen)
so I guess it didn't matter.  PC's?  Wordstar (dot commands?? rofl), I can
see that RUNOFF and nroff had their influences but it was sure a step back
if you ask me.  Wordperfect was better than Word (in the beginning), and I
never saw anything (Word processing programs) that I ever liked.  XYWrite
was usable (at least it had macros as I recall).  I guess pico will do for
now (I just want simple and not complicated, or CygnusEd [or EDT] back).

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> > The hyphens don't bother me near as much as a wanting a simh-3.7-3.tgz or
> > simh-3.7-3.bz2 does.
>
> I don't understand what you mean here -- some of us are not native
> speakers.  Do you mean "I would like something that isn't a zip file"?
> Or is it the way the version number is formated you refer to?

No, it's the zip files.  I like to keep things consistant.  If you start
with 1 kind of numbering scheme, or date format, you should continue to
use what the original author intends.  But for platform compression, the
defaults for Windows has been (zip), for Apples (originally pac), for the
Amiga it was (lhz or lha), original "Unix" was (compress .Z) and for the
open source *nix variants, (gunzip, or bzip2).  Most of the linux distros
come with unzip already installed, but that isn't the case for BSD's.  If
you have to deal with alot of dependancies just to get something running,
most people will eventually give up (try installing Inkscape on linux).
Dealing with zip files (again), really isn't that big of an issue, but if
Jason starts making executable distributions (for different platforms),
the compression formats should be native to the platforms they are
compiled for.

Brett



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