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can you share it? I'd love to take a look at it</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Simh <simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com> on behalf of Kevin Handy <khandy21yo@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> March 30, 2020 2:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hittner, David T [US] (MS) <david.hittner@ngc.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> simh@trailing-edge.com <simh@trailing-edge.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Simh] EXT :Re: Releasing terspy.mar - vax/vms terminal spy program</font>
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<div dir="ltr">I found a program on an old gcc distribution called gcobs.mar. Dom't know why they had it on there. but...
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<div>It allows you to spy on another terminal, and if you type a ^\ (iirc) you can interact with that terminal. The only authorship message I can see is</div>
<div>;Last Modified: 6-SEP-1988 14:19:55.00, By: RLB <br>
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<div>I know nothing of its licensing, I just have this one file. It worked great. Not sure what privs are required either.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 9:04 AM Hittner, David T [US] (MS) <<a href="mailto:david.hittner@ngc.com">david.hittner@ngc.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">Oh no… management frequently asked VMS admins to ‘spy’ on general users for a few reasons back in the day, before the politically-correct era.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<u></u><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span>-<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">Make sure users were not defrauding the company [stealing inventory with illegal transactions, etc.] (without user consent)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<u></u><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span>-<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">Watch user sessions when managers reported various discipline problems (without user consent)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<u></u><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span>-<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">Debugging full-screen application behavior from a remote location by having the user walk us through what they did (with user consent)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">SET HOST/LOG sessions are difficult to use to see where full-screen applications went wrong, since you have to manually interpret all of the logged VT
escape sequences. </span><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Wingdings; color:rgb(31,73,125)">L</span><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">For a while, there was a company selling a SPY utility for VMS, as well as freebie versions floating around. The commercial version allowed the watcher
to enter data in the watched session by using a special command sequence to enable remote data entry. I don’t recall any of the freebie versions ever allowing data entry from the watcher, for fairly obvious security reasons.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">There was also another highly privileged program on the DECUS tapes, GLOGIN, which allowed a privileged user to login as another user, so that you could
see what application behavior occurred within the context of a specific user. I found a weird bug in one of our application programs that only occurred when the username was
<u>exactly</u> 7 characters long using GLOGIN to login as the user who had reported the bug that we couldn’t duplicate ourselves.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">David<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Simh <<a href="mailto:simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com" target="_blank">simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Armstrong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com" target="_blank">simh@trailing-edge.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> EXT :Re: [Simh] Releasing terspy.mar - vax/vms terminal spy program<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">></span>$ SET HOST/LOG will log your own session. This program logs someone else's session.<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)"> That’s true – I’m assuming the person being spied upon wants to be spied on.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:rgb(31,73,125)">Bob<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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