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Is it still piracy if the country doesn't recognize it?<br>
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when one country doesn't follow another's laws, things get messy.<br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Hittner, David T [US] (MS) <david.hittner@ngc.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 17, 2020 2:12:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Dan Gahlinger' <dgahling@hotmail.com>; simh@trailing-edge.com <simh@trailing-edge.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">>What would HPE do if the pak they released were posted anonymously with the termination date removed?</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">HPE would be within their full rights to prosecute anyone who strips the termination date from the PAKs and reposts with a new checksum.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">If you are just talking about reposting the original (what appear to be mostly universal) FINAL PAKs with the termination date intact, I don’t suspect that
 HPE would quite as upset as the above open-ended software piracy scenario given that they are exiting the OpenVMS business, and the fact that there IS a termination date on the original PAKS which limits their financial loss, but you should always ASK PERMISSION
 before doing ANYTHING  that is in VIOLATION of the Terms and Conditions, as this proposal clearly is.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">There’s little that individuals can do to stop software piracy. However, individuals can elect to NOT be part of the software piracy problem.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Simh <simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Gahlinger<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 17, 2020 9:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> simh@trailing-edge.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> EXT :Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:#212121">What would HPE do if the pak they released were posted anonymously with the termination date removed?</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:#212121">I ask because countries like Russia just don't care, or like Iran...</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">*I can neither confirm nor deny that such a posting exists...</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> Simh <<a href="mailto:simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com">simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com</a>>
 on behalf of John H. Reinhardt <<a href="mailto:johnhreinhardt@thereinhardts.org">johnhreinhardt@thereinhardts.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 17, 2020 9:32:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com">simh@trailing-edge.com</a> <<a href="mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com">simh@trailing-edge.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license</span> </p>
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<p>Typo on my part in the original.  It should be one "s"...  <a href="https://eisner.decuserve.org">
<https://eisner.decuserve.org></a> for the web page.  ssh to eisner.decuserve.org for the login.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.hpe.com/h41268/live/index_e.aspx?qid=24548">https://www.hpe.com/h41268/live/index_e.aspx?qid=24548</a></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">You need to make sure you put valid information in the form and make sure you put something reasonable in the "How do you use the Hobbyist Program?" question.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">If you don't have a Chapter number, go to (via ssh) <a href="http://eisner.decusserve.org">
eisner.decusserve.org</a> and log in with the username of REGISTRATION and follow the prompts. That gets you registered in the US DECUServe chapter (all nationalities are welcome) and gets you a valid member number for registration.  You may have to wait a
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 11:48, dave porter <<a href="mailto:dave_list_addr@verizon.net">dave_list_addr@verizon.net</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I let my VMS hobbyist license expire a few years back.  Can I get one<br>
now for the next year?  Would someone remind me of how?<br>
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