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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>VSI hasn’t said anything about this. Only HPE has. All we know now that that HPE is getting out of the Hobbyist business. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Your point is exactly why I had asked if VSI views the Hobbyist user community a plus or minus. Only VSI can answer that, and we’ve got some 22 months for any answers to be had and any details to be worked out. We are definitely not circling the drain yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Let’s wait a bit until all the relevant players have had a chance to speak.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Simh [mailto:simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevin Handy<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 8, 2020 12:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> Hunter Goatley <goathunter@goatley.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Simh <simh@trailing-edge.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Simh] OpenVMS Hobbyist Program<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>With VMS only available for obsolete hardware, the main people keeping the knowledge alive is the hobbyests. With the loss of the hobbyist program, there's going to be a lot of hard feelings left behind. IWon't that cause VSI problems when the finally get an X86 version going? The VMS supporters are going to feel like they've been burned too many times Why would someone choose VMS, who keep dropping out, over Linux or Windows, which seems to be taking over in the area's VMS used to hold.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>It just seems to be a bad deal for VSI's future.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 10:39 AM Hunter Goatley <<a href="mailto:goathunter@goatley.com">goathunter@goatley.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>On 3/8/2020 8:57 AM, Craig Berry wrote:<br>> HPE does not need to be selling or supporting the software in order to collect royalties from those who do, and I suspect the commercial emulator vendors have the ability to issue PAKs for new and transferred VAX licenses, and make money for themselves and for HPE when they do so.<br><br>Good point. I had assumed HPE was the only entity doing that, but that <br>may not be the case.<br><br>Hunter<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Simh mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Simh@trailing-edge.com" target="_blank">Simh@trailing-edge.com</a><br><a href="http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh" target="_blank">http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>