<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Tom<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have TOPS-10 monitor 7.04 running quite happily on simh.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One of things I found was that set cpu idle may not always be ok, but is fine when you have a working o/s.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also I set cpu tops10 - I’m not sure what this does but it means it works. Here is my tops 10 startup script:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Andale Mono"; color: rgb(47, 255, 18); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">set cpu tops10</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Andale Mono"; color: rgb(47, 255, 18); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">set cpu idle</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Andale Mono"; color: rgb(47, 255, 18); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">set tim y2k</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Andale Mono"; color: rgb(47, 255, 18); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">att rp0 disks/t10b.dsk</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Andale Mono"; color: rgb(47, 255, 18); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">att lp20 printer.out</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Andale Mono"; color: rgb(47, 255, 18); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">set lp20 enable</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Andale Mono"; color: rgb(47, 255, 18); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">set dz 8b</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Andale Mono"; color: rgb(47, 255, 18); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">set dz lines=8</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Andale Mono"; color: rgb(47, 255, 18); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">att -a -m dz 2020</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Andale Mono"; color: rgb(47, 255, 18); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">;att -a -m dz 23</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Andale Mono"; color: rgb(47, 255, 18); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">boot rp0</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 25 Jan 2020, at 01:20, Tom Russo <<a href="mailto:russo@bogodyn.org" class="">russo@bogodyn.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 08:17:09PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <</span><a href="mailto:rich@sky-visions.com" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">rich@sky-visions.com</a><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">> flavor, containing:</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Hi Tom,<br class=""><br class=""> While I have not tried Tops-20 on the KS10, I do have versions 2<br class=""> through 7 running on my unreleased KL10 simulator. I am still<br class=""> resolving issues, I should be releasing it in a month or two.<br class=""></blockquote><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">That should be pretty cool. I look forward to it.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""> I think you need to hit ^C after the NO SYSJOB.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></blockquote><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I never get to a NO SYSJOB anywhere. It hangs right at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">"System restarting, wait..."</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">^C does nothing at that stage.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Rich<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I'm a new simh user, and have mostly been using it to relive my youth<br class="">on PDP-11s. But I also had played with TOPS-20 back in those misspent<br class="">days, and wanted to see if I could have my own, fully realizing that<br class="">SIMH can't run later versions of TOPS-20 because it simulates a<br class="">KS10. Still, I am having trouble getting past the first few steps of<br class="">the install.<br class=""><br class="">I am starting from the install document at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><a href="http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/dec/pdp10/TOPS20/V4.1_Feb83/AA-P346A-TM_KS_Install_4.1_Feb83.pdf" class="">http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/dec/pdp10/TOPS20/V4.1_Feb83/AA-P346A-TM_KS_Install_4.1_Feb83.pdf</a><br class=""><br class="">I have downloaded the install tape from<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">http://pdp-10.trailing-edge.com/tapes/bb-d867e-bm_tops20_v41_2020_instl.tap.bz2<br class=""><br class="">I use this "install.ini" file (cribbed from<br class="">https://gunkies.org/wiki/Running_TOPS-20_V4.1_under_SIMH):<br class=""><br class="">set cpu tops-20<br class="">d wru 006<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">att tu bb-d867e-bm_tops20_v41_2020_instl.tap<br class="">set rp rp06<br class="">att rp t20.dsk<br class="">boot tu<br class=""><br class="">at which point I'm greeted with the expected MTBOOT> prompt. I then<br class="">do:<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">MTBOOT> /L<br class="">MTBOOT> /G143 <br class=""><br class="">and basically say Y to all the questions:<br class="">[FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TYPE "?" TO ANY OF THE FOLLOWING<br class="">QUESTIONS.]<br class=""><br class="">DO YOU WANT TO REPLACE THE FILE SYSTEM ON THE PUBLIC STRUCTURE? Y<br class=""><br class="">DO YOU WANT TO DEFINE THE PUBLIC STRUCTURE? Y<br class=""><br class="">HOW MANY PACKS ARE IN THIS STRUCTURE: 1<br class=""><br class="">ON WHICH "CHANNEL,UNIT" IS LOGICAL PACK # 0 MOUNTED: 0,0<br class=""><br class="">DO YOU WANT THE DEFAULT SWAPPING SPACE? Y<br class=""><br class="">DO YOU WANT THE DEFAULT SIZE FRONT END FILE SYSTEM? Y<br class=""><br class="">DO YOU WANT THE DEFAULT SIZE BOOTSTRAP AREA? Y<br class=""><br class="">[STRUCTURE "PS" SUCCESSFULLY DEFINED]<br class=""><br class="">[PS MOUNTED]<br class="">?PS UNIT 0 HAS NO BAT BLOCKS.<br class="">DO YOU WANT TO WRITE A SET OF PROTOTYPE BAT BLOCKS? Y<br class=""><br class="">%%NO SETSPD<br class=""><br class="">System restarting, wait...<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">At this point, the simulator just sits there for hours, never giving<br class="">the date/time question the installation guide says I should get<br class="">next. It does seem that the install process has at least initialized<br class="">the disk image, and if I reboot and tell it to skip all of those<br class="">filesystem initialization steps, it blasts right to the %%NO SETSPD<br class="">and "System restarting" steps, whereupon it hangs again.<br class=""><br class="">I'm running simh off of today's current git master branch. I have<br class="">compiled it both on FreeBSD and on Ubuntu 16.04 with identical<br class="">results (so I am not assuming it's just a FreeBSD incompatibility<br class="">issue).<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">I see plenty of old references to running TOPS-20 4.1 on SIMH, and no<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">such references to this apparent hanging of the simulator at a very<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">early stage in installation. Has anybody got this running? Am I<br class="">missing something blindingly obvious somewhere?<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">==========================================================================<br class="">Richard Cornwell<br class=""><a href="mailto:rich@sky-visions.com" class="">rich@sky-visions.com</a><br class="">http://sky-visions.com<br class="">LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-cornwell-991076107<br class="">==========================================================================<br class=""></blockquote><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Tom Russo KM5VY</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Tijeras, NM </span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z] [n-z][a-m]</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; 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