<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 January 2018 at 21:34, Mark Abene <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:phiber@phiber.com" target="_blank">phiber@phiber.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I remember Columbia had an ASCII-encoded kermit binary which you could either print/load as paper tape, or copy/paste into an editor.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The correct tense actually seems to be "has":</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/pdp11.html">http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/pdp11.html</a></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:calibri,"arial narrow",sans-serif,times;font-size:16px">Digital Equipment Corporation's PDP-11 was (and is) a 16-bit mini- or microcomputer used in applications ranging from embedded device control to general-purpose timesharing. Several different Kermit programs are available for the PDP-11.</p><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:calibri,"arial narrow",sans-serif,times;font-size:16px"><b>Kermit-11</b> is the Kermit software for Digital Equipment Corporation PDP-11 operating systems: RT-11, RSX-11, RSTS/E, IAS, P/OS, and (not a DEC OS) TSX+. Kermit-11 was written by Brian Nelson of the University of Toledo, Ohio, circa 1984-89, in PDP-11 assembly language, Macro-11. Separate programs, listed below, are available for other PDP-11 operating systems like UNIX and MUMPS.</p><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:calibri,"arial narrow",sans-serif,times;font-size:16px">The Kermit-11 source code is available at our <a href="ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/" style="color:darkmagenta">ftp site</a> in the <a href="ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/b/" style="color:darkmagenta"><tt>kermit/b</tt></a> subdirectory as <tt>k11*.mac</tt>, and you can find prebuilt-binaries for various operating systems and configurations in<a href="ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/bin/" style="color:darkmagenta"><tt>kermit/bin/</tt></a>, as <tt>k11*.tsk</tt> or <tt>k11*.sav</tt>. If you are unfamiliar with FTP, or have problems with it, <a href="http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ftphlp.html" style="color:darkmagenta">READ THIS</a>. There are also various utilities -- hex encoders and decoders, etc -- written Macro-11, Fortran, and Basic in the <tt>kermit/b</tt> directory, along with all the Kermit-11 text files, whose names all start with "k11".</p></blockquote><div>:)</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>That's how I loaded KERMIT on my old RSTS/E V7 system.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So that should all be still doable in much the same way now as it was then!</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>-Mark</div></font></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>// Christian</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="gmail-h5">On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Bryan Davies <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bryan.e.davies@gmail.com" target="_blank">bryan.e.davies@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="gmail-h5"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small">But I've always wondered - how do you get Kermit onto the target machine?</div></div><div class="gmail-m_935832968263285917HOEnZb"><div class="gmail-m_935832968263285917h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 January 2018 at 20:16, Jordi Guillaumes Pons <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jg@jordi.guillaumes.name" target="_blank">jg@jordi.guillaumes.name</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span><br><div>
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</span><span><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 23 Jan 2018, at 21:13, Paul Koning <<a href="mailto:paulkoning@comcast.net" target="_blank">paulkoning@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_935832968263285917m_7312780257007069954m_3589898155893475199Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>SAV files would be binaries (RT11 format). BAS are source files.<br><br>There are a number of solutions. Text files you could load via paper tape, with the text file attached to the SIMH tape reader. That's not as good an answer for binaries though it could be made to work.<br><br>Magtape or disk are better solutions. Disk works well if you have a program that can write disk images in a format the target OS knows. That's easy in this case; you can use my "flx" (RSTS File Exchange) program to do this. There's an older version written in C, a newer one written in Python 3. For the former, look in <a>svn://akdesign.dyndns.org/flx/<wbr>branches/V2.6</a>, for the latter, in <a>svn://akdesign.dyndns.org/flx/<wbr>trunk</a>. There's documentation for both in those respective directories. (Commments and bug reports, especially for the new version, would be appreciated.)</div></div></blockquote><br></div></span><div>There’s always kermit… </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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