<div dir="auto">Actually I was planning on reading all of the non-programming docs before I go any further. I know it's a daunting task but I am up to it. I know DCL but I don't know MCR. Even I am planning on using DCL I want to familiarize myself with MCR too for the whole experience. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Ray</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 8, 2017 6:39 PM, "Johnny Billquist" <<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank">bqt@softjar.se</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 2017-05-09 00:20, Ray Jewhurst wrote:<br>
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Already have it my plans. First before I do the netgen I want to<br>
familiarize myself with RSX better.<br>
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Good idea.<br>
You know about the "Introduction to RSX" manual? It might be a good start, if you haven't already gone past that point. I don't know what kind of experience you have...<br>
<br>
And then the system managers manuals...<br>
<br>
Johnny<br>
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On May 8, 2017 5:27 PM, "Johnny Billquist" <<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank">bqt@softjar.se</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank">bqt@softjar.se</a>>> wrote:<br>
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On 2017-05-08 05:03, Ray Jewhurst wrote:<br>
<br>
I wanted to thank everyone for all the advice my system is up and<br>
running. Next up learning more and then doing a netgen.<br>
<br>
<br>
Hey, excellent!<br>
<br>
May I suggest that after installing DECnet, you might want to<br>
install TCP/IP? ;-)<br>
<br>
Johnny<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks again<br>
Ray<br>
<br>
On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Mark Pizzolato<br>
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Since simh autosizes MSCP disks, if you keep using the same<br>
original<br>
disk ____<br>
<br>
<br>
Images you might have created initially, you may not be changing<br>
anything ____<br>
<br>
<br>
if you keep on attaching the same disk image after you<br>
change the<br>
disk type.____<br>
<br>
__ __<br>
<br>
<br>
The output of sim> SHOW RQ will show how big the disks will<br>
appear<br>
to the ____<br>
<br>
operating system once you start things running.____<br>
<br>
__ __<br>
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*Subject:* Re: [Simh] Problems install RSX-11M+ v4.6____<br>
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__ __<br>
<br>
<br>
The 128k thing is physical memory, which is sonething else<br>
than size<br>
of the disk. There is an option in simh in the config to<br>
explicitly<br>
tell how large disk you want. Check the documentation.<br>
<br>
Use a disk of at least 1g, and we can move on to the next<br>
problem,<br>
which is going to be the number of file headers on the disk,<br>
unless<br>
you read that manual I gave the link to.<br>
<br>
Easy howto pages on the internet are nice, but sooner or<br>
later you<br>
need to read the docs and understand what you are doing.<br>
<br>
Johnny<br>
<br>
____<br>
<br>
Ray Jewhurst <<a href="mailto:raywjewhurst@gmail.com" target="_blank">raywjewhurst@gmail.com</a><br>
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<mailto:<a href="mailto:raywjewhurst@gmail.com" target="_blank">raywjewhurst@gmail.com</a><wbr>>>> skrev: (8 maj 2017 01:08:19<br>
CEST)____<br>
<br>
<br>
I tried running every size disk imaginable and I still<br>
get the<br>
same error and it still states 128KW. The small disk I<br>
tried<br>
was 159MB. BTW, that prebuilt system also had the same<br>
error and<br>
128KW again and it was a approx 10MB Massbus disk<br>
running on a<br>
11/45.Could this be a bug? I am following everything to<br>
a T.<br>
Should I try a non-plus sysgen to see if I get the same<br>
error?____<br>
<br>
Doing my best,____<br>
<br>
Ray____<br>
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On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Johnny Billquist<br>
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<br>
On 2017-05-07 23:01, Alan Frisbie wrote:____<br>
<br>
On 05/07/2017 01:21 PM, Ray Jewhurst wrote:____<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6 BL87 <a href="http://128.KW" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">128.KW</a><br>
<<a href="http://128.KW" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://128.KW</a>> <<a href="http://128.KW" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://128.KW</a>><br>
<<a href="http://128.KW" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://128.KW</a>> System:"Baseline"<br>
>RED DU:=SY:<br>
>RED DU:=LB:<br>
>RED DU:=SP:<br>
>MOU DU0:"RSX11MPBL87"<br>
>@[2,54]BASTART.CMD<br>
12:46:19 *** GEN Checkpoint space<br>
allocation failure<br>
12:46:19 *** GEN Checkpoint space<br>
allocation failure<br>
12:46:19 *** GEN Checkpoint space<br>
allocation failure<br>
12:46:19 *** GEN Checkpoint space<br>
allocation failure<br>
12:46:19 *** GEN Checkpoint space<br>
allocation failure<br>
12:46:19 *** GEN Checkpoint space allocation<br>
failure____<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
This means that the disk you are running from (DU0:)<br>
does not<br>
have enough free space for RSX to allocate a<br>
checkpoint<br>
file.____<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Ah! Yes, of course. Thanks for that, Alan. Didn't<br>
even think<br>
about the possibility that the disk would be that small,<br>
since he was using MSCP.<br>
<br>
Ray, start over, and create disk image files that are<br>
larger.____<br>
<br>
<br>
Start over and tell SIMH to make DU0: (rq0)<br>
larger. I<br>
would<br>
suggest at least 32 MB if you plan to do<br>
anything useful<br>
with<br>
the system. Don't go above 500 MB, however, as the<br>
ODS-1 disk<br>
structures can't handle anything that large.____<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
No, ODS-1 handles larger disks fine. The limit is<br>
8G. If you<br>
go above that, there is no harm, but the disk will<br>
just be<br>
truncated to 8G anyway, so no point in going larger.<br>
I would suggest something around 2G or so, and<br>
you're set<br>
for life.<br>
(Personally I run with four 8G drives, but then<br>
again, I'm<br>
not exactly normal when it comes to RSX...)<br>
<br>
Johnny<br>
<br>
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