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The same is true with Ultrix, see the code snipped I posted. It
only prints out lock mode or not.<br>
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-- Ragge<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Den 2016-08-31 kl. 17:06, skrev Mark
Pizzolato:<br>
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DELQA documentation refers to specifically enabling DEQNA
Lock mode which can be specified by switch and/or
programmatically.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">When
implementing the simulator, beyond the fact that there is a
DEQNA Lock mode, the document really doesn’t mention what is
special/different about the behavior of the DELQA device
when it is in DEQNA Lock mode. VMS doesn’t handle the DEQNA
and the DELQA differently beyond merely identifying one
board from another. VMS does detect the DELQA-T and it
leverages the completely different/more efficient/less
ambiguous programming model. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If
someone can provide the various versions of the Ultrix
drivers for this device and maybe explain how the different
devices are treated differently by those drivers we can make
the simulated devices more precisely match what the original
hardware did.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Simh [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com">mailto:simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Cory Smelosky<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 31, 2016 7:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Johnny Billquist <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se"><bqt@softjar.se></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com">simh@trailing-edge.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Simh] Ultrix 4.0 and DEQNA-LOCK<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Aug 31, 2016, at 03:30, Johnny Billquist <<a
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On 2016-08-31 04:43, Cory Smelosky wrote:<br>
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Well, then I retract my guess. By 4.5 I would expect the
code to handle a DELQA natively. Ragge also posted the
source code for 4.5, which clearly states that it should
handle the DELQA...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yeah - I'm very confused by that!<o:p></o:p></p>
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after first starting the emulator)<o:p></o:p></p>
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Huh. That really do sound like a bug. Since it don't
happen on real hardware I would guess a simh issue. What
kind of VAX are you emulating, by the way? The 3900?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yup - 3900. It didn't occur to me until
now it might not be coincidence it panics with a segfault
right after probing the network card...I wasn't noticing
any network issues until now though I guess.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Johnny<br>
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Johnny Billquist <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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here. Ultrix might just change it to run in DEQNA
mode. Maybe because it didnät have a driver for
running it in DELQA mode in 4.0? Just guessing
here, but it don't look to me as if there actually
is a bug anywhere.<o:p></o:p></p>
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details. The 4.5 SPD says it should work (modulo
firmware - which I suspect simh is assuming that).
Johnny is probably right.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cory: Is there a reason you are
running 4.0 not not something later than 4.4.
There a ton of bugs fixed in the 4.3/4.4
development. The Vax has sort of been forgotten by
the Ultrix/Tru64 teams in favor of the PMAX and the
Alpha; thus entropy had set in on the Vax code.
Even though 4.3 was not an officially bug release,
it had more bug fixes in that any previous one,
because a number of just got sick of dealing with it
and there was a 3-4 week development hiatus where we
just cleaned up things. IIRC this was particularly
true for the networking stack, because we were
heaving pathworks development then and the Pathworks
stack kept turning up small boundary conditions in
the Unix side.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Anyway -- if you are going to run
Ultrix, I highly recommend 4.5 - which was really
the most stable of the all the Ultrix releases. For
instance, the SCSI stack is (finally) common with
Tru64, as we back ported Fred's Alpha stack to the
Vax and PMAX. As a result it will cover a lot more
devices. I seem to remember we did some similar
things in the Network code too, but again I've
forgotten (I was worrying about TruClusters at that
time but would occasionally consult to the Ultrix
folks).<o:p></o:p></p>
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