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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29-Feb-16 12:43, Cory Smelosky
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On Feb 29, 2016, at 09:33, Timothe Litt <<a
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On 29-Feb-16 12:34, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>Can anyone point me at IMP documentation for the
KS10? I'm only seeing AN10 maintenance printsets up on
Bitsavers...I'd love documentation that isn't KLH10's
KS10-ITS implementation!<br>
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<div>Alternatively, were any of the experimental Ethernet
interfaces ever supported in TOPS-10/20 on the KS10? (I
don't have access to my SRI-NIC packs due to the VM
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<div>Alternatively too...the userland ANF-10 bridge could
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Not clear what you want to do.<br>
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<div>Sorry - this is KS10 FPGA-related, too early in the morning
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The KS does have an ARPA interface, the AN22. I have not
tracked down a spec for it. It is KMC-11 based, not simulated
by SimH at present. The TOPS-20 monitor sources for 4.1 are a
resource. One day I'll get access to my stuff at CHM and will
look for a spec. It's on my list to see if it's worth
emulating.<br>
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<div>That right there is immensely useful. KMC stuff already needs
implemented for DECnet.</div>
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I implemented the KDP (Mark contributed most of the DUP), but the
KMC emulation is specific to the COMM-IOP (DDCMP) microcode. It
doesn't execute the microcode - it's a higher-level implementation.
The DUP talks DDCMP in a TCP connection, and only understands DDCMP
- not the other (bit stuffing) protocols.<br>
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The DEUNA is simulated in SimH. Neither the released TOPS-10
nor TOPS-20 support it. There is some TCP code floating
around that does.<br>
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<div>I've now forgotten who wrote it...but I've tried it out!</div>
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If you're trying to move files in and out:<br>
DECnet does work (phase II on TOPS-20, Phase III or IV on
TOPS-20), and will talk to VAX/RSX. You can move files by
stopping on or PMR thru) one of them.<br>
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<div>Ah right - I forgot TOPS-20 was Phase II only...ARPA stuff
would prove useful there, then.</div>
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You can work your way from Phase II to Phase III - e.g. the T10
phase III will talk to T20, and any phase IV will talk to Phase III.<br>
It's ugly, but works.<br>
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ANF-10 on the KS does work, KS-KS. It should be possible to
build the -11 nodes on the KS & boot them on a SimH -11.
I've been meaning to get around to that, but haven't. With
ANF, besides the peripherals and terminals, you get DCP.<br>
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<div>Hmmm!</div>
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Networking on the KS is supported on both OSs by the KDP
emulator. The DMR should work, though I think there's a
monitor bug in 7.04 where my colleagues changed AC definitions
and didn't update the DMR driver. Also on my list.<br>
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<div>Did the patches make it in to the "7.05" patches or was it
forgotten then as well?</div>
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There is no 7.05 release. I started a Github repo for that, but
populating it hasn't reached the top of my endless list.<br>
Sigh.<br>
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You can also move files in and out with Kermit (serial
lines), cards, magtape, printer.<br>
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<div>Magtape emulation and an LP20<--->lpd bridge...time to
research if lwIP implements that!</div>
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LPTSPL will write to magtapes. <br>
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I created a printer class driver layer for simh when I did PDF
output for all the emulators, but that went into a black hole of
"more is not enough" and did not find its way into simh/master.<br>
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A bridge to lpd should be done that way, and not as an LP20-specific
hack.<br>
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