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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>OK.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Consider this:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>A standalone vax/vms system won’t usefully need to run DECnet or any cluster stuff.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>From what you describe you don’t really need to talk between the simh VAX instance and the host centos system.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Given these, you can configure the VMS environment to ONLY have an IP network stack and avoid DECnet. This will allow the MAC address of the simulated NIC to retain its default value (as set in the simh configuration file) rather than dynamically changing to a DECnet form MAC address.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>You should then be able to set the simh configured MAC address to the same MAC address as the centos system’s network interface you are using. Given that, you only need to get an additional IP address for use on the simulated system. I haven’t actually tried this, but it “should” work.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Bill Deegan [mailto:bill@baddogconsulting.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 8, 2015 2:40 PM<br><b>To:</b> Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm<br><b>Cc:</b> billdeg@buzz1.com; simh@trailing-edge.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Simh] Running simh vax on amazon EC2<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Trying to run vax/vms under simh on centos (or RHEL) 6.6<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Migrating some applications from a physical vax.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Minimally be able to Telnet into the system from another system.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Maybe ftp in/out.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-Bill<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm <<a href="mailto:Mark@infocomm.com" target="_blank">Mark@infocomm.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bill,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>What EXACTLY are you trying to do? What are you trying to do with the VAX/VMS system? </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>What is the host OS the simh instance is running under?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Mark</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a name="14e6f6892831f6a6__MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></a><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Simh [mailto:<a href="mailto:simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com" target="_blank">simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Deegan<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 8, 2015 1:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:billdeg@buzz1.com" target="_blank">billdeg@buzz1.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com" target="_blank">simh@trailing-edge.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Simh] Running simh vax on amazon EC2<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Yup. Correct IP. <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I ran tcpdump on the network and it's not responding to arp addresses from the MAC address that VMS changes to.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>-Bill<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:07 PM, B Degnan <<a href="mailto:billdeg@buzz1.com" target="_blank">billdeg@buzz1.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sorry I'd have to mess around with it to find a solution. Forgetting about<br>NAT, confirm you have the correct internal IP first. If you don't use<br>Amazon a lot it's confusing. (was to me).<br> b<br><br><br><br> -------- Original Message --------<br>> From: "Bill Deegan" <<a href="mailto:bill@baddogconsulting.com" target="_blank">bill@baddogconsulting.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 4:03 PM<br>> To: "Cory Smelosky" <<a href="mailto:b4@gewt.net" target="_blank">b4@gewt.net</a>><br>> Cc: "<a href="mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com" target="_blank">simh@trailing-edge.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com" target="_blank">simh@trailing-edge.com</a>><br>> Subject: Re: [Simh] Running simh vax on amazon EC2<br>><br>> Any examples on how to setup vax/vms in simh for NAT?<br>><br>> -Bill<br>><br>> On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Cory Smelosky <<a href="mailto:b4@gewt.net" target="_blank">b4@gewt.net</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> > Can't work around that, limited to NAT, ec2 does Mac filtering<br>> ><br>> > Sent from my iPhone<br>> ><br>> > > On Jul 5, 2015, at 19:34, Bill Deegan <<a href="mailto:bill@baddogconsulting.com" target="_blank">bill@baddogconsulting.com</a>><br>wrote:<br>> > ><br>> > > Greetings,<br>> > ><br>> > > Has anyone had success (or unresolvable failure) getting a simh VAX<br>to<br>> > run on an ec2 machine?<br>> > ><br>> > > We're following the bridging instructions but running into an issue<br>> > where the MAC addresses used by the VAX are not routing into EC2<br>network...<br>> > ><br>> > > Any thoughts/suggestions to get this to work?<br>> > ><br>> > > Thanks,<br>> > > Bill<br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > Simh mailing list<br>> > > <a href="mailto:Simh@trailing-edge.com" target="_blank">Simh@trailing-edge.com</a><br>> > > <a href="http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh" target="_blank">http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh</a><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Simh mailing list<br>> > <a href="mailto:Simh@trailing-edge.com" target="_blank">Simh@trailing-edge.com</a><br>> > <a href="http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh" target="_blank">http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh</a><br>> _______________________________________________ Simh mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Simh@trailing-edge.com" target="_blank">Simh@trailing-edge.com</a><br><a href="http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh" target="_blank">http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>