<div dir="ltr">Before starting to dig into traffic captures I'd like to try two more things:<br><br>* a OpenVMS 7.3 setup on a new SIMH machine - if that works then I can think about migrating users and data from 7.2<br>
* using a different ethernet card to rule out layer 1 problems<br><br>This problem is not easily reproducible, "it just happens", so I can only report back after a certain amount of time.<br>Thanks for now</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-04-30 16:59 GMT+02:00 Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Mark@infocomm.com" target="_blank">Mark@infocomm.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">As Rick suggested, you should capture traffic in both directions. Wireshark is an excellent tool for that. Additionally, Wireshark has built-in protocol decoders which can interpret what is happening in the TCP telnet session. If you aren’t familiar with, or don’t want to dig into the details of the packet innards, you can save the capture contents, make it available, and let me or someone else can interpret the details and offer analysis.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com" target="_blank">simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com" target="_blank">simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lorenzo<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> Rick Murphy<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com" target="_blank">simh@trailing-edge.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Simh] OpenVMS 7.2 VAX telnet failure<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">What nmap is reporting should be the traffic from the VAX to the client.<br>No matter the client I use (e.g. telnet.exe, PuTTY...), all I get is an endless stream of chars, which matches what appears in the traffic dump.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal">Upgrading to SIMH 4.0 beta had no effect - after 14 hours I experienced the same exact problem.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">During the telnet outage, which happened after ~14 hours of SIMH running, FTP was still working fine.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">2014-04-30 2:50 GMT+02:00 Rick Murphy <<a href="mailto:rick@rickmurphy.net" target="_blank">rick@rickmurphy.net</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">At 06:21 PM 4/29/2014, Lorenzo wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal">
Hi!<br>I'm running OpenVMS 7.2 VAX on a simh emulator, latest release<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">(V3.9-0 from <<a href="http://simh.trailing-edge.com" target="_blank">http://simh.trailing-edge.com</a>><a href="http://simh.trailing-edge.com" target="_blank">simh.trailing-edge.com</a>) and compiled with networking (libpcap, no vde).<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>The emulator has got its own network card to which it's attached.<br>The host operating system is Linux, kernel 3.11.<br>My issue is that after an apparently random amount of time (usually a few hours) the telnet server stops working.<br>
I can't get any client to log in remotely - as soon as I connect to the OpenVMS machine,<br>all I get is a blank character sequence, as follows (dumped by nmap):<br><br>SF:NULL,1138,"\xff\xfb\x01\xff\xfb\x03\xff\xff\xff\xff\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br><br>There's a beginning of some TELNET options negotiation going on there.<br><br>That's the following:<br>255 (IAC)<br>251 (WILL)<br>1 (ECHO)<br>
255 (IAC)<br>251 (WILL)<br>3 (SGA) [Suppress go-ahead)<br><br>That's pretty standard.<br>The series of 0xff (IACs) and nulls that follow aren't.<br><br>You really need to capture the traffic to-and-from. Is this coming from the VAX to your client, or vice versa?<span style="color:#888888"><br>
<span> -Rick</span></span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>