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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265515923-27012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Valid point Paul</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265515923-27012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265515923-27012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>as long as you make sure that you don't use an extension on
the list..</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265515923-27012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265515923-27012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Easier just to turn it off </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265515923-27012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265515923-27012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>But then the problem was figuring out what the problem
was,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265515923-27012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265515923-27012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Villy</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com
[mailto:simh-bounces@trailing-edge.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Paul Hardy
2<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 27, 2008 14:21<BR><B>To:</B>
simh@trailing-edge.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Simh] Excess IOs running SIMH on
Windows/XP<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It strikes me that a quicker and safer way to solve
this would be not to use *.dsk as the file extension for simh virtual disks on
Windows, but instead rename them as *.vdisk or similar. I plan to rename mine,
and just change VAX.INI to reference the new names.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>-- <BR>Paul Hardy<BR>Email: paul at the
hardy.demon.co.uk domain<BR></FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=brian@quarterbyte.com href="mailto:brian@quarterbyte.com">Brian
Knittel</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=simh@trailing-edge.com
href="mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com">simh@trailing-edge.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 25, 2008 6:28
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Simh] Excess IOs running
SIMH on Windows/XP</DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">If someone wants to do an experiment, here is the
information</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I have about the way to change the list of files
covered</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">by System Restore on Windows XP and
Vista.</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">On XP, there is "super-hidden" file named
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">\windows\system32\restore\filelist.xml that specifies
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">the file types and directories covered by System
Restore.</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">This file has the System, Hidden and Readonly
attributes</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">set. Log on as an Administrator and in a Command
Prompt</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">window type:</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> cd
\windows\system32\restore</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> attrib -s -h -r
filelist.xml</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> notepad filelist.xml</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">This file has elements named <FILES> and
<DIRECTORIES></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">and <EXTENSIONS>, with <Include> and
<Exclude> elements within </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">each. Not too hard to decypher. I don't know what
extension </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">you're using for your VAX disk images, but I see that
DSK </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">is listed in the <EXTENSIONS><Include>
section.</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">So -- if someone wants to experiment with this on
XP,</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">how about excluding the directory that
contains</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">your VAX disk images by adding a new <REC>
entry</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">inside <DIRECTORIES><Include>, in the form
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><REC>c:\path\to\vax\files</REC>. Also, be
sure that</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">System Protect is ON on the drive that
holds</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">your VAX disk images.</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Restart XP, log on as an Administrator, and request
that </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">it take a System Restore point by following these
steps:</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">1. Click Start, All Programs, Accessories, System
Tools,</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> System Restore.</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">2. Select Create a Restore Point and click
Next</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">3. Enter a description e.g. "Test after excluding VAX
directory"</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">4. Click Create</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Wait until disk activity ceases, then try running
the</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">VAX simulator. Does the disk activity problem
occur?</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">On Vista, System Restore, and on
Business/Enterprise/Ultimate,</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">the Complate PC Backup and "Previous Files" features,
are handled </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">by the Volume Shadow Copy service, so entire files are
not</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">copied all at once as on XP. Original versions of
changed blocks </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">are archived one at a time. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Tecnnically, you can't guarantee exclusion from
coverage</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">by System Restore on Vista, since the backup occurs at
the</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">block level, below the file system. But you can
"advise" it to</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">try to avoid specified files. It's done in the
registry under</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\BackupRestore\FilesNotToSnapshot</SPAN></FONT>
</DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">There is probably no no compelling reason to try to
exclude the </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">VAX disk images from coverage under Vista. Only
changed blocks are </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">copied so it won't consume much time or space. I
suppose if</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">you ever restore the disks from virtual tape, you'd be
doing</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">double the work there. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I'd be interested in knowing if this does turn out
to</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">be the answer to the VAX disk activity
issue.</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Regards</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Brian</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Brian</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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