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<DIV><SPAN class=616344509-24122006><FONT face=Arial size=2>I may have asked
this question a few years back - but I'm wondering if anybody knows more
today (or perhaps new people have come to the list)...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=616344509-24122006><FONT face=Arial size=2>Who currently owns
DSM-11? Who would be the right people to ask nicely if it's OK to use it under
SIMH, or whether they'd consider making it generally
available?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=616344509-24122006><FONT face=Arial size=2>In the beginning
there was Digital. And DSM-11, which was good.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=616344509-24122006><FONT face=Arial
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<DIV><SPAN class=616344509-24122006><FONT face=Arial size=2>Then Digital sold
the rights to a lot of PDP-11 intellectual property to Mentec... but Mentec told
me this didn't include DSM-11.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=616344509-24122006><FONT face=Arial
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<DIV><SPAN class=616344509-24122006><FONT face=Arial size=2>Then Digital sold
their VAX and Alpha MUMPS software to Intersystems... but Intersystems said they
didn't take DSM-11 with it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=616344509-24122006><FONT face=Arial
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<DIV><SPAN class=616344509-24122006><FONT face=Arial size=2>Then Digital was
bought by Compaq, then later swallowed up by HP. They don't seem to even have
heard of DSM-11.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=616344509-24122006><FONT face=Arial
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<DIV><SPAN class=616344509-24122006><FONT face=Arial size=2>I suppose assuming
that what Mentec and Intersystems have said is right, HP owns DSM-11 whether it
knows it or not... but who would one talk to about it?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=616344509-24122006><FONT face=Arial
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<DIV><SPAN class=616344509-24122006><FONT face=Arial size=2>I still have some
real -11s that used to run DSM-11, along with original install tapes for a
couple of versions, but getting it onto SIMH has proven difficult. I have TK50
install media, which can be read on a TZ86 (of which I have a few) - if only I
knew of a PDP-11 simulator that could boot from a real tape drive attached to a
PC... anybody?</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BODY></HTML>