[Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring
Jonathan Welch
jhwelch at gmail.com
Fri May 10 10:26:07 EDT 2019
To everyone who supplied helpful comments on my problem, and also to
those who were having interesting side conversations -- a big thank
you. It was so exciting to get networking up and running. My last
step was a set console telnet command and thus able to use a real
terminal window. Editing in EDT line mode can be a bit tedious.
On 5/9/19, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
> On 2019-05-09 21:15, Henry Bent wrote:
>> There is such a thing as promiscuous mode for 802.11, though its usage
>> is generally considered to be for harmful purposes and I don't think a
>> discussion of it here is appropriate. If you want to do such a thing
>> you will need to be careful in your selection of a wireless interface,
>> and googling is your friend.
>
> I've seen some mention of some interfaces being able to do it, yes, but
> I have yet to see any in real life. Not entirely sure WiFi in general
> even can do it properly.
>
> Johnny
>
>>
>> -Henry
>>
>> On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 15:11, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
>> <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
>>
>> Repeat after me: WiFi is not ethernet... :-)
>>
>> What you are trying to do essentially does not work. simh is
>> essentially
>> trying to set the interface in promiscuous mode, and fake a second mac
>> address on the interface. This works just fine on ethernet, but it
>> does
>> not at all work on WiFi, where your AP knows what MAC address you
>> have,
>> and will not send packets for another MAC address to your WiFi
>> controller.
>>
>> Johnny
>>
>> On 2019-05-09 16:00, Jonathan Welch wrote:
>> > The vms systems on our campus are about to be shut down. My former
>> > boss and I would like to still have access to our files, so I've
>> moved
>> > an image of a vax system disk into simh.
>> >
>> > He is a networking expert and I am no slouch, but neither of us can
>> > figure out why we cannot establish any kind of network connection
>> > outside of the simh.
>> >
>> > I've looked back in the archives for help but have only found
>> people
>> > with linux systems or messages of success with UCX.
>> >
>> > This morning I upgraded from Multinet 4.3 to 5.2 and tried to set
>> up
>> > DHCP but that did not work either.
>> >
>> > Npcap is installed.
>> >
>> > If I set my mac address to be the same as that of the host laptop I
>> > can use wireshark to see pings coming out from the vax but there
>> are
>> > no responses.
>> >
>> > I've disabled decnet from starting up to avoid the mac address from
>> > being changed.
>> >
>> > Some guidance in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> > ----------
>> >
>> > From my vax.ini file:
>> > set xq mac=08-24-d7-ca-1f-40
>> > att xq eth3
>> >
>> > From the simh prompt:
>> > sim> sho eth
>> > ETH devices:
>> > eth0 \Device\NPF_{8E7FBCD3-67EB-4A59-8E35-6713CAB729FA}
>> (Local Area
>> > Connection 2)
>> > eth1 \Device\NPF_{EE67D248-AACC-4A29-99EE-2B84EA08B5EF} (VMware
>> > Network Adapter VMnet8)
>> > eth2 \Device\NPF_{7287895B-5B94-43ED-8AA8-1FF910EA836B}
>> (Wireless
>> > Network Connection 2)
>> > eth3 \Device\NPF_{DC3CD7F8-4BD9-4610-B8DF-20AC5FBD56FC}
>> (Wireless
>> > Network Connection)
>> > eth4 \Device\NPF_NdisWanIp
>> (NdisWan Adapter)
>> > eth5 \Device\NPF_NdisWanBh
>> (NdisWan Adapter)
>> > eth6 \Device\NPF_{B1392056-6E69-421B-9814-6011441195C2}
>> (Wireless
>> > Network Connection 3)
>> > eth7 \Device\NPF_NdisWanIpv6
>> (NdisWan Adapter)
>> > eth8 \Device\NPF_{C7140267-68CB-485A-B343-5751B1865242} (VMware
>> > Network Adapter VMnet1)
>> > eth9 \Device\NPF_{795E27CA-60AA-4A1E-AAB0-99FB62537868} (Npcap
>> > Loopback Adapter)
>> > eth10 \Device\NPF_{62CD8A59-7E13-401A-90AB-3CFBC37554E8}
>> (Local Area
>> > Connection)
>> > eth11 nat:{optional-nat-parameters}
>> (Integrated
>> > NAT (SLiRP) support)
>> > eth12 udp:sourceport:remotehost:remoteport
>> (Integrated
>> > UDP bridge support)
>> > Npcap version 0.994, based on libpcap version 1.9.1-PRE-GIT
>> > Open ETH Devices:
>> > XQ eth3 (Wireless Network Connection)
>> > Ethernet Device:
>> > Name:
>> \Device\NPF_{DC3CD7F8-4BD9-4610-B8DF-20AC5FBD56FC}
>> > Reflections: 1
>> > Self Loopbacks Sent: 2
>> > Self Loopbacks Rcvd: 2
>> > Host NIC Address: 00:24:D7:CA:1F:40
>> > Packets Sent: 2
>> > Packets Received: 26
>> > Asynch Interrupts: Disabled
>> > Read Queue: Count: 24
>> > Read Queue: High: 24
>> > Read Queue: Loss: 0
>> > Peak Write Queue Size: 0
>> > BPF Filter: (((ether dst 08:24:D7:CA:1F:40) or (ether
>> multicast)) and not ((et
>> > her src 08:24:D7:CA:1F:40))) or ((ether dst 08:24:D7:CA:1F:40)
>> and (ether src 08
>> > :24:D7:CA:1F:40)) or ((ether dst 00:24:D7:CA:1F:40) and (ether
>> proto 0x9000))
>> > sim>
>> >
>> > Multinet settings
>> > MultiNet Network Configuration Utility V5.2(107)
>> > [Reading in MAXIMUM configuration from MULTINET:MULTINET.EXE]
>> > [Reading in configuration from
>> MULTINET:NETWORK_DEVICES.CONFIGURATION]
>> > NET-CONFIG>sho
>> > Interface Adapter CSR Address
>> Flags/Vector
>> > --------- ------- -----------
>> ------------
>> > se0 (Shared VMS Ethernet/FDDI) -NONE- -NONE-
>> -NONE-
>> > [TCP/IP: 10.0.0.150, IP-SubNet: 255.255.255.0,
>> IP-Broadcast:
>> > 10.0.0.255]
>> > [VMS Device: XQA0, Link Level: Ethernet ]
>> > DHCP Client for the interface is enabled
>> >
>> >
>> > Official Host Name: vax1
>> > Default IP Route: 10.0.0.1
>> > Domain Nameserver: 127.0.0.1
>> > Timezone: EST
>> > Timezone Rules: US/EASTERN
>> > Load UCX $QIO driver: TRUE
>> > Load PWIP (Pathworks) driver: TRUE
>> > DHCP Client Flag: 1
>> > NET-CONFIG>
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>> --
>> Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
>> || on a psychedelic trip
>> email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se> ||
>> Reading murder books
>> pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
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>
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> || on a psychedelic trip
> email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
> pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
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