[Simh] Problems running simH in Android

Thu May 10 19:51:28 EDT 2018

interestingly enough the pdp8 simulator seems fine. At least with rx devices

On Thu, May 10, 2018, 2:33 PM Gene Irwin <girwin1215 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Same issue on my desktop.
>
> I have used this very same process on older versions with my desktop
> running an AMD FX processor, linux mint 18, and it has worked.
>
> I went to the trailing edge page and went to the software kits section and
> downloaded the 2 RSTS images.
>
> I have looked in my archived copies if the kit, and the file sizes for the
> disk images in my archived copy match the newly downloaded one.
>
> an older copy of the pdp11 executable on my system mounts the image fine:
>
> PDP-11 simulator V4.0-0 Beta        git commit id: 9d2079df
> sim> set cpu 1m
> Disabling RK
> Disabling HK
> Disabling TM
> sim> at rl0 rsts_full_rl.dsk
> sim>
>
> But the current build does not (same image file):
>
> PDP-11 simulator V4.0-0 Current        git commit id: c1894a7d
> sim> set cpu 1m
> Disabling RK
> Disabling HK
> Disabling TM
> sim> at rl0 rsts_full_rl.dsk
> RL0: non expandable disk rsts_full_rl.dsk is smaller than simulated device
> (2617KW < 2621KW)
> File open error
> sim>
>
> this image I am using (rsts_full_rl.dsk) is newly downloaded from the kits
> page on the
> trailing edge site.
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 9:37 AM Mark Pizzolato <Mark at infocomm.com> wrote:
>
>> First, please follow the exact same steps (grabbing the same disk image),
>> using the same configuration file on any of your other favorite simh
>> hosts.  If this produces the same result, then it's not a platform problem.
>>
>> In any case, precisely describe the steps, configuration file and source
>> of the disk image.
>>
>> Let me know what you find.
>>
>>  - Mark
>>
>> On May 10, 2018 9:24 AM, Gene Irwin <girwin1215 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ok. So I switched to my tablet  (Samsung tab a) running 7.1.1 and things
>> built fine.  I pulled the software kit for rsts and when I tried to mount
>> the prebuilt rl0 the simulator errored.
>>
>> RL0: non expandable disk rsts_full_r.dsk is smaller than simulated device
>> (2617KW < 2621KW)
>>
>> File size according to ls -l is 5235200
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> On Wed, May 9, 2018, 4:52 PM Mark Pizzolato <Mark at infocomm.com> wrote:
>>
>> Skip the AltairZ80 for now.  The change that caused the redefinition was
>> done to potentially help the AltairZ80 author to fix the glob.h missing
>> issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Pull the latest and you should hopefully be able to build all but the
>> AltairZ80 simulator.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Simh [mailto:simh-bounces at trailing-edge.com] *On Behalf Of *Ray
>> Jewhurst
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 9, 2018 4:17 PM
>> *To:* Gene Irwin <girwin1215 at gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* simh <simH at trailing-edge.com>
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Simh] Problems running simH in Android
>>
>>
>>
>> I just got that error too and now after doing a make clean, I cannot
>> build anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 9, 2018, 6:45 PM Gene Irwin <girwin1215 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm having issues compiling on the note 8 with android 8.
>>
>> Getting glob.h not found on the altairz80 and most give a warning about
>> redefinition of *DIR_ENTRY_CALLBACK
>>
>> Kernel if 4.4.78
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 2:05 PM John Forecast <john at forecast.name> wrote:
>>
>> Works fine for me - LineageOS 14.1 (which is basically Nougat 7.1) on a
>> Nexus 7 tablet.
>>
>>
>>
>>   John.
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 9, 2018, at 2:49 PM, Mark Pizzolato <mark at infocomm.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> The github master branch code should now work under termux on Android for
>> at least Marshmallow on up.  I have tested Marshmallow and Oreo.  I would
>> appreciate confirmation on other Android versions:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1)      Install termux from the Google Play Store
>>
>> 2)      Under termux, Install the tool chain:
>>
>>     $ pkg install clang make git
>>
>> 3)      Testing with:
>>
>>     $ git clone https://github.com/simh/simh
>>
>>     $ cd simh
>>
>>     $ make vax
>>
>>     $ BIN/vax
>>
>>     sim> B
>>
>> If you end up at the >>> prompt everything looks good.  If you did this
>> without a physical keyboard connected, you won’t be able to type Control-E
>> to get back to the sim> prompt.  Just enter B ZZZ which is an unknown
>> device and the boot ROM will halt returning you to the sim> prompt.
>>
>>
>>
>> Once you get that far, all the other simulators should build fine and be
>> usable pretty much like on most other Linux environments.  Things which
>> require root access won’t work since termux doesn’t give you that.  It
>> would be interesting to know if NAT mode networking works for the VAX
>> simulators…
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mark Pizzolato
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 8, 2018 11:00 PM
>> *To:* Mark Pizzolato <Mark at infocomm.com>; Ray Jewhurst <
>> raywjewhurst at gmail.com>; simh <simH at trailing-edge.com>
>> *Subject:* RE: [Simh] Problems running simH in Android
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Ray,
>>
>>
>>
>> Give the latest github code a try.
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW, what Android version is running on your phone/tablet?
>>
>>
>>
>> What is the output of ‘uname –a’ in your termux session?
>>
>>
>>
>> -          Mark
>>
>>   __
>>
>> *From:* Simh [mailto:simh-bounces at trailing-edge.com
>> <simh-bounces at trailing-edge.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mark Pizzolato
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 8, 2018 8:13 AM
>> *To:* Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com>; simh <simH at trailing-edge.com
>> >
>> *Subject:* Re: [Simh] Problems running simH in Android
>>
>>
>>
>> To follow up a little more on this.
>>
>>
>>
>> The call to tcsetattr() is failing with errno: 13 – Permission denied
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mark Pizzolato
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 6, 2018 11:47 PM
>> *To:* Mark Pizzolato <Mark at infocomm.com>; Ray Jewhurst <
>> raywjewhurst at gmail.com>; simh <simH at trailing-edge.com>
>> *Subject:* RE: [Simh] Problems running simH in Android
>>
>>
>>
>> I did a little digging and struggled with typing a whole bunch on my
>>
>> phone.
>>
>>
>>
>> The problem you’re seeing is due to the Linux OS environment you’re
>>
>> running under doesn’t support ‘raw’ mode for terminal I/O.  When you
>>
>> start a simulator the traffic to/from the simulated console device is
>>
>> expected to be exactly the characters that the user types on the console
>>
>> keyboard.  To achieve this, the current tt mode is gathered with
>> tcgetattr()
>>
>> then those attributes are adjusted so that every character typed is
>> received
>>
>> without any interpretation by the OS and output is also not translated
>> (i.e.
>>
>> \n only sends a LF character instead of CRLF characters).  The error
>> message,
>>
>> you seeing is due to the call a tcsetattr() failing.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Simh [mailto:simh-bounces at trailing-edge.com
>> <simh-bounces at trailing-edge.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mark Pizzolato
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 5, 2018 8:38 PM
>> *To:* Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com>; simh <simH at trailing-edge.com
>> >
>> *Subject:* Re: [Simh] Problems running simH in Android
>>
>>
>>
>> If you’re not comfortable digging into this yourself, then please create
>> an
>>
>> Issue at https://github.com/simh/simh/issues and spell out exactly how to
>>
>> recreate your setup and reproduce the problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Simh [mailto:simh-bounces at trailing-edge.com
>> <simh-bounces at trailing-edge.com>] *On Behalf Of *Ray Jewhurst
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 5, 2018 5:48 PM
>> *To:* simh <simH at trailing-edge.com>
>> *Subject:* [Simh] Problems running simH in Android
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been trying forever to get simh to run under the Termux Android
>> shell app and got very close but no cigar. It builds okay but then when I
>> try running it, it starts fine but when I go to run an OS,  I get this:
>>
>>
>>
>> PDP-11 simulator V4.0-0 Current        git commit id: f2f4bfa8
>>
>> sim> do rt1154f.ini
>>
>> Disabling XQ
>>
>> rt1154f.ini-3> b rk0
>>
>> sim_ttrun() returned: Console input I/O error
>>
>> sim>
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Ray
>>
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