[Simh] 101 Basic Games for RSTS/E (was Re: PDP11 on Simh for public access)

[Tim Stark]

Folks,

There is BLISS source codes for TOPS-20 in pdp-10.trailing-edge.com.

There is a free copy of BLISS compilers for VAX and Alpha in Freeware CD dist. 

There is a online version of  The Design of an Optimizing Compiler on CMU website.

I have a question for you.  Does anyone know any documents to learn how to write BLISS codes?

Thanks,
Tim

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From: Simh [mailto:simh-bounces at trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Phil Budne
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 12:09 PM
To: simh at trailing-edge.com
Subject: Re: [Simh] 101 Basic Games for RSTS/E (was Re: PDP11 on Simh for public access)

Paul Koning wrote:
> As for BLISS, there's BLISS-16 and BLISS-11.  One came from Carnegie-Mellon; the other was built at DEC.  Both are cross-compilers, but I don't remember which platform.  PDP-10 for both?  10 for one and VAX for the other?

BLISS-11 was written in BLISS-10 (and both were written at C-MU), and
BLISS-11 was the jumping off point for COMMON BLISS.  I think sources for both 'B10 and 'B11 are on PDP-10 DECUS tapes.

BLISS-16 was a member of the COMMON BLISS family.  I don't ever remember seeing an EXE for it on a PDP-10, but I was never a COMMON BLISS fan.  I hacked on FINE at Stevens Tech (the computing center had a copy of BLISS-36, the PDP-10 COMMON BLISS compiler, but it wasn't available to the unwashed masses).  When I went to DEC, I worked on FORTRAN-10/20, which was also in BLISS-10.  I was down in Marlborough
(MR1-2) and don't recall ever seeing COMMON BLISS sources.

I do recall a mention (perhaps in a published article?) of the existence of a "cut down" version of BLISS-16 that could run on an '11.

I once sang in a chorus with someone who had worked on COMMON BLISS.
ISTR he said he was a contractor, not a DEC employee.

My boss on the F10 project was Sara Murphy, one of the original F10 developers, and I have some recall that she had been involved in a fancy BASIC for TOPS-20 (I _think_ it was called BP2, but I could be wrong).

phil
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