[Simh] PDP11 on Simh for public access

Bob Eager rde at tavi.co.uk
Tue Jan 23 17:34:08 EST 2018


If you know how to handle magtapes on RSTS, you can make a tape image.

On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 21:43:03 +0000
Bryan Davies <bryan.e.davies at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's all handy information.  When I've done it I'll make a DSK file
> so others can mount it directly into Simh.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> On 23 Jan 2018 21:39, "Christian Brunschen" <christian at brunschen.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On 23 January 2018 at 21:34, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I remember Columbia had an ASCII-encoded kermit binary which you
> >> could either print/load as paper tape, or copy/paste into an
> >> editor.
> >>
> >
> > The correct tense actually seems to be "has":
> >
> > http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/pdp11.html
> >
> >> Digital Equipment Corporation's PDP-11 was (and is) a 16-bit mini-
> >> or microcomputer used in applications ranging from embedded device
> >> control to general-purpose timesharing. Several different Kermit
> >> programs are available for the PDP-11.
> >>
> >> *Kermit-11* is the Kermit software for Digital Equipment
> >> Corporation PDP-11 operating systems: RT-11, RSX-11, RSTS/E, IAS,
> >> P/OS, and (not a DEC OS) TSX+. Kermit-11 was written by Brian
> >> Nelson of the University of Toledo, Ohio, circa 1984-89, in PDP-11
> >> assembly language, Macro-11. Separate programs, listed below, are
> >> available for other PDP-11 operating systems like UNIX and MUMPS.
> >>
> >> The Kermit-11 source code is available at our ftp site
> >> <ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/> in the kermit/b
> >> <ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/b/> subdirectory as k11*.mac,
> >> and you can find prebuilt-binaries for various operating systems
> >> and configurations inkermit/bin/
> >> <ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/bin/>, as k11*.tsk or k11*.sav.
> >> If you are unfamiliar with FTP, or have problems with it, READ
> >> THIS <http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ftphlp.html>. There are also
> >> various utilities -- hex encoders and decoders, etc -- written
> >> Macro-11, Fortran, and Basic in the kermit/b directory, along with
> >> all the Kermit-11 text files, whose names all start with "k11".
> >>
> > :)
> >
> >
> >> That's how I loaded KERMIT on my old RSTS/E V7 system.
> >>
> >
> > So that should all be still doable in much the same way now as it
> > was then!
> >
> >
> >> -Mark
> >>
> >
> > // Christian
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Bryan Davies
> >> <bryan.e.davies at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> But I've always wondered - how do you get Kermit onto the target
> >>> machine?
> >>>
> >>> On 23 January 2018 at 20:16, Jordi Guillaumes Pons <
> >>> jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
> >>>> jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
> >>>> HECnet: BITXOW::JGUILLAUMES
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 23 Jan 2018, at 21:13, Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> SAV files would be binaries (RT11 format).  BAS are source files.
> >>>>
> >>>> There are a number of solutions.  Text files you could load via
> >>>> paper tape, with the text file attached to the SIMH tape
> >>>> reader.  That's not as good an answer for binaries though it
> >>>> could be made to work.
> >>>>
> >>>> Magtape or disk are better solutions.  Disk works well if you
> >>>> have a program that can write disk images in a format the target
> >>>> OS knows.  That's easy in this case; you can use my "flx" (RSTS
> >>>> File Exchange) program to do this.  There's an older version
> >>>> written in C, a newer one written in Python 3.  For the former,
> >>>> look in svn://akdesign.dyndns.org/flx/branches/V2.6, for the
> >>>> latter, in svn://akdesign.dyndns.org/flx/trunk.  There's
> >>>> documentation for both in those respective directories.
> >>>> (Commments and bug reports, especially for the new version,
> >>>> would be appreciated.)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> There?s always kermit?
> >>>>
> >>>
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