[Simh] DZ11 vs DZV/DZQ11

[Johnny Billquist]

I think the whole concept of deriving the number of controllers based on 
units in simh is wrong.
I think one should configure each controller separately, including being 
able to tell what CSR and vector it has, and how many units should be 
connected one way or another, and any other relevant information. For 
serial ports, that obviously means that you might connect one line to a 
physical line, another to a telnet listener, and another one not 
connected to anything at all. And exactly how many units/lines the 
controller have should also be a factor here then.

This also comes back to disks, where I might not want to configure four 
disks on one controller, but maybe one controller per disk.

The list goes on...

   Johnny


On 2018-04-09 20:47, Mark Pizzolato wrote:
> Hmmm..
> 
> This is indeed true.  The problem comes from the fact that the single 
> PDP11 simulator can simulate different PDP11 models some of which are 
> Unibus while others are Qbus systems.  On the various VAX simulators, 
> each simulator only simulates either a Unibus or a Qbus machine and thus 
> things are simpler to align and thus things appear as you would expect.
> 
> Feel free not to use the extra ports that are provided free of charge. J
> 
> Seriously, I’ll look into addressing this.  The number of DZ11/DZV11 
> devices that are simulated is derived from the number of lines which are 
> configured.  A problem arises when the CPU type changes between a Unibus 
> and Qbus types.  What should happen when an odd number of DZV11’s are 
> configured and the CPU type is changed from a Qbus type to a Unibus type?
> 
> *From:* Simh [mailto:simh-bounces at trailing-edge.com] *On Behalf Of 
> *Robert Armstrong
> *Sent:* Monday, April 9, 2018 7:35 AM
> *To:* simh at trailing-edge.com
> *Subject:* [Simh] DZ11 vs DZV/DZQ11
> 
>    It appears that if you want to simulate a DZV or DZQ11 on a QBUS 
> PDP11, then you have to use the UNIBUS DZ11 instead.  That’s OK, except 
> that a DZ11 has 8 lines per card where as the DZV and DZQ are only 4 
> lines per card.  Simh won’t let you say “SET DZ LINES=4”.  This is 
> something of an issue because I want to set up my simh environment to 
> exactly mimic my real hardware, and it appears that’s not possible as 
> far as the DZ goes.
> 
>    Or am I missing something??
> 
>    BTW, it’s funny that “HELP DZ” in simh talks exclusively about the 
> DZV11 and even says things like
> 
> … The DZV11 is a 8 line terminal multiplexor. …
> 
> That’s totally wrong…
> 
> Bob Armstrong
> 
> 
> 
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