[Simh] Pontus asks Is [the] BSD [license] liberal enough?

[Cory Smelosky]

On Sun, 7 Jun 2015, Clem Cole wrote:

> ?below?
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> On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
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>> OSF/1 1.0 and 2.0 sources ended up out somewhere...as I have sources to
>> them.
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> ?Interesting - based OSF/1 [386 probably] not Tru64 right?   DEC did a lot
> of work to OSF/1 starting on the PMAX and then to Alpha. ?  And I do not
> believe the sources were ever released by DEC or HP.
>

PMAX, MMAX, AT386.

Only 1.x and 2.0 - nothing else ever made it out (to something I found at 
any rate).  Very very early (and one kinda cancelled) version so I'm not 
too shocked.

Of course...tried to build it on OSF/1...my DECstation with bad FPU isn't 
good for it. ;)

This came from a "public" (if you look) source so it's been "in the wild" 
for awhile.

> The base OSF/1 was done from the IBM System V.3 license buy out.   But DEC
> never bought out its UNIX license like Sun and IBM [and I think I remember
> HP did also, but I've forgotten that tid bit].  Have to check with TPM or
> someone in the UNIX press from those days.
>

Interesting.

V3 is up on archive.org IIRC so the bag's out on that too.

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>>   I have DG/US as well.
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> ?Interesting - I did not believe they ever released that.?  I also do not
> believe they bought their license from AT&T/Novell so how it was released
> would be interesting to hear.
>

That was simply a misremembering - I had seen BINARIES when visiting a 
friend's...was their backup copies of their own hardware - which they're 
somewhat entitled to have. ;)

I do NOT have any DG code stashed.

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>> Doesn't mean I can legally DO anything with it, though.
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> ?Hmm, be careful here.   I'm not a lawyer - but I don't think you are
> supposed to possess it either - even if it is "old" or abandoned.   That
> said, as I understand it, I believe the remediation? is to surrend all
> copies to the owners of the IP [EMC in this case].   Many hackers take a
> view that if they owner of the IP goes away, the code should go to the
> public commons.   But the truth is that DG IP is owned by EMC, just as HP
> owns the DEC IP assets.
>

Now that I think of it, it's NOT DG/UX source - see above.

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>> Apple are largely removing GPL'd stuff and going to differently-licensed
>> stuff.
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> ?Indeed but that's user space code.  Their kernel was never GPL'ed.  It was
> a dead fish license (and I was just talking about the kernel).
>

Yeah.

> Clem?
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