[Simh] Standalone boot on vax8600?

Henry Bent hbent at oberlin.edu
Sat Jul 12 23:01:02 EDT 2014


Here you go:
http://occs.cs.oberlin.edu/~hbent/vaxultrix/boot.gz


-Henry


On 12 July 2014 22:57, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:

> On 2014-07-13 04:52, Henry Bent wrote:
>
>> Sure, I'll work on getting an Ultrix image in a usable state so that I
>> can upload it.
>>
>
> Actually, thinking about it, it should be enough with just the boot file
> that you are using.
>
>         Johnny
>
>
>> -Henry
>>
>>
>> On 12 July 2014 22:50, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
>> <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 2014-07-13 04:19, Henry Bent wrote:
>>
>>         Cool, thanks.
>>
>>         I figured out what's going on.  The standalone programs are
>> running,
>>         they just aren't displaying any input or output after the first
>>         character is printed.  So if I do this:
>>
>>         --
>>         sim> load -o boot 0
>>         sim> run 2
>>
>>         --
>>         and then blindly type "ra(0,0)vmunix", it boots!
>>
>>
>>     [...]
>>
>>     Hmm hmm. I suspect I might know what is going on there. I'd have to
>>     test and play around some to verify, though. The console I/O on the
>>     86x0 machines are a bit special, and I wouldn't be surprised if
>>     there were some issues in simh related to that.
>>
>>     Mark, can we get some trace of all reads and writes to the registers
>>     related to the console? (There are four logical devices addressed on
>>     the 86x0 machines through the same CSRs.)
>>
>>     Henry, if you could get such information logged, we could probably
>>     fix this pretty fast. Or else if you could just provide me with the
>>     files, I could test this myself as well. I don't have an old Ultrix
>>     image around, though.
>>
>>              Johnny
>>
>>
>>         --
>>         Ultrix V2.2 System #2: Wed Nov 18 01:14:13 EST 1987
>>         real mem  = 8388608
>>         avail mem = 6888448
>>         using 34 buffers containing 278528 bytes of memory
>>         VAX 8600, serial no. 1234, hardware level = 7
>>         IO adapter 0 at address 0x20080000 is an SBI adapter
>>         uba0 at address 0x20006000
>>         uda0 at uba0
>>         uq0 at uda0 csr 172150 vec 774, ipl 15
>>         ra0 at uq0 slave 0
>>         de0 at uba0 csr 174510 vec 120, ipl 15
>>         mba0 at address 0x20012000
>>         ht0 at mba0 drive 0
>>         tu0 at ht0 slave 0
>>         boot device not found
>>         root device?
>>         --
>>
>>         And I can then interact with the console, characters are displayed
>>         normally, etc.
>>
>>         -Henry
>>
>>
>>         On 12 July 2014 19:33, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm
>>         <Mark at infocomm.com <mailto:Mark at infocomm.com>
>>         <mailto:Mark at infocomm.com <mailto:Mark at infocomm.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>              On Thursday, July 10, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Mark Pizzolato wrote:
>>               > On Jul 10, 2014 2:02 PM, Johnny Billquist
>>         <bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>
>>              <mailto:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>>> wrote:
>>               > >
>>               > > On 2014-07-11 01:08, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm wrote:
>>               > > > On Thursday, July 10, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Cory Smelosky
>>         wrote:
>>               > > >> On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, Henry Bent wrote:
>>               > > >>
>>               > > >>> Well, that at least did something different.
>>               > >>>
>>               > >>> sim> boot rq0 /r5:8
>>               > >>> Loading boot code from vmb.exe
>>               > >>> %BOOT-F-Unexpected Exceptio
>>               > >>>
>>               > >>> The 8600 simulator always seems to cut off the last
>>         character
>>              of its
>>               > >>> messages, I wonder if that's in any way related to
>>         the other
>>              console
>>               > >>> problems.
>>               > >>>
>>               > >>
>>               > >> 780, 750, and 730 have the same issue...along with not
>>              actually booting from
>>               > >> the console RL, floppy, et al.
>>               > >
>>               > > The last character output in a message just prior to
>>         executing
>>              a HALT
>>               > > instruction is not surprising since the simulator
>>         implements a
>>              delay
>>               > > (as a number of instructions executed) from when the
>>         data is put in
>>               > > the output register prior to generating the completion
>>              interrupt/status.
>>               > >  The halt instruction gets executed before the delay
>>         number of
>>               > > instructions have completed.  Even if that was
>>         'fixed', nothing
>>               > > operational would change.  The reason the message has
>> been
>>               > > generated will still exist.
>>
>>              The latest github code will no longer drop the last
>>         character output
>>              just prior to executing a HALT instruction which returns to
>> the
>>              "sim> " prompt.
>>
>>              Like I said above, nothing else changes though.
>>
>>              - Mark
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>>     --
>>     Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
>>                                        ||  on a psychedelic trip
>>     email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>             ||
>>
>>       Reading murder books
>>     pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
>                                   ||  on a psychedelic trip
> email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
> pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
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